Re: new Challenger?
[Re: InViolent]
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12/02/05 10:07 AM
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Here is a direct quote from MPH Editor regarding the car they got to shoot for a day:
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The car we shot was a runner, but it wasn't the production car. It had lots of carbon-fiber panels and a concept interior-stuff to make it appear more "concept" than "production." But we have it on good authority that it will be produced. The car was designed to accommodate a convertible version, if that's any clue to how serious Dodge is about making it happen.
Maybe the start of production will be in March of 2007 like some of the message board rumors claim. That would be a little later than was suggested to me, but within the same window.
Thanks for the additional information InViolent!
XS
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: MikeyT]
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12/02/05 10:32 AM
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Umm I can't tell you what that picture has done to me, for fear of getting this thread blocked but I need to go clean up now. I know by hook or crook I'm going to land myslef in one of these and, that pictures almost brought tears to my eyes. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas. Good god why do we have to wait until 2009 for this!
Mike
TMI!...TMI!
How about buying it in early 2007 as a 2008 model?...
Please spare us any details that scenario may have brought about...
XS
I thought it was coming out in 09, you mean it will be out in 08? OPk I'll be quiet, I was honestly trying to be discreet really I was, just I'm so excited!!!
Mike
This was posted earlier in this thread...
"Phase 1: next year's new-model onslaught, which will see Jeep double its offerings and Dodge return fire on the Mustang with its own retro-cool Challenger muscle car. "
Maybe available late next year? 2007 model.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: MonGoo$e]
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12/02/05 11:04 AM
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in order for this particular car to be successful (remember, compete with Mustang) it must have a V6 option.. Second, remember when the 70-71's and some 72 had the Slant Six as a Base? yes, everyones beloved 70-71..atleast i can tell people my 74 challenger had a V8 standard..
but really, the stangs come in a V6 and V8, and this is to fight Mustang in sales and time slips.
Some of you are being silly with the non-6 cylinder, Manual 6 speed only way of thinking. Car has to be made for everyone like the Mustang and Camaros were/will be.
Think, for the car to last, some people that are low on cash, or they are girls that want one but don't need the 8, like the car but can't afford it or don't want a V8..so they buy a v6 stang, one less Sale for the Dodge, x so many other similar cases...and the car won't last long. thats my
I don't see it.
The Mustang has tons of cross-over with women who have always like Mustangs and are just fine w/a lowly V6.
The Challenger is a MANLY car and will NOT generate sales nowhere NEAR that of a Moostang b/c it will have hardly much appeal to women.
The Challenger needs to go head to head with the GTO, not the Mustang. GTO comes standard with the LS2 V8. Sure the GTO doesn't garner much sales, but that's b/c it's surrounded in a Cavalier body.
Hence, even though MY car came w/a 318, that was 1970 folks. Different times, different market where anything two-door will sell.
Two-doors are pretty tough to sell these days so you need a different strategy.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: 2fast4yourBrain]
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12/02/05 12:11 PM
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Ummm.
I can see lots of folks who have to do 30 - 60 mile commutes to work every day wanting the styling offered by the Challenger coupled with something that offers better fuel mileage than the hemi.
Also - As someone said, this ain't 1970 anymore. 6 cylinder engines are not necesarily the stodgy old low-RPM stump-pullers they used to be. I've driven both the V8 GT mustang as well as the 6 and I gotta say, the 6 is a suprisingly healthy little engine. Can't see why a V6 offered by chrysler would be any less engine.
The bottom line is that as much as people with deep pockets would like to keep it a specialty car, DC has to offer a mass-market version for guys like me to be able to afford the muscle version.
Otherwise, it's just gonna be another toy for the priviledged few. Like the viper.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: 2fast4yourBrain]
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12/02/05 12:20 PM
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Wow - I thought you were kidding in your other post. V6 models will outsell V8 ones probably 10 to 1 so they'd be silly not to offer it as an option. If they didn't the Challenger would be a bust sales-wise. Quote:
Two-doors are pretty tough to sell these days so you need a different strategy.
By creating yet another tiny niche car?
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: 2fast4yourBrain]
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12/02/05 12:45 PM
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If this car is successful, not everybody who buys this car will be doing so for neck-snapping performance.
That's important to folks like you and me, but if this things going to fly, it can't be just a "he-man's" car - secretaries and clerks and so on have to be purchasing milder versions of the car.
...Unless you are prepared to pay $50K plus for an "exclusive" musclecar. I know I'm sure not in that league.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: dezduster]
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12/02/05 12:49 PM
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MR ALL KNOWING YUPPIE What I MEANT and how you understood it is two differant things...SO NOW YOU ARE TELLING ME WHAT I AM THINKING! If you can read minds surley you know what I am telling you to go do.
What you meant and what you said is that the notion of a reasonably priced and competitive 4 door is "Bull Poop" (to use a non censorable term). I do not like to be called a distributor of "Bull Poop," nor do I like it when someone contradicts themselves as they do it.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: IronYuppie]
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12/02/05 01:32 PM
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Wow! Tom took the RPM Pix away! I guess it was a kind jesture, but that was a bit like rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. Me thinks it's too late. Glad I saved a copy.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Big Bad Bee]
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12/02/05 01:38 PM
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Wow! Tom took the RPM Pix away! I guess it was a kind jesture, but that was a bit like rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. Me thinks it's too late. Glad I saved a copy.
shanker posted the same cover shot in another thread... I guess he did not know that Tom took the pictures off...
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Re: new Challenger?
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12/02/05 03:00 PM
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Without a 6 banger Challenger where will people get their parts cars 30 years from now and more importantly if everyone has a Hemi how will they establish their " I have the best car " pecking order?
77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440
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