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I think this car will be a lot like the LX cars.\

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They aren't trying to break any new mechanical design ground with it, just new styling venture. I would think it would be similar to them.

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A 4 door will never be an exceptional handling or performing vehichle.

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Check out Cadillacs 4 door rallye cars.. :thumb
They are sweet...

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Just found this article on Chrysler's new exec .

Not really sure but perhaps this is promising for the new Challenger.

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Speaking of production, Verduyn states there are no plans to produce the Challenger Concept, although a positive reaction at the Detroit show will bolster its business case.

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from MSNBC article:
To climb that mountain, LaSorda intends to boost Chrysler's sales by 1 million cars by 2010. Phase 1: next year's new-model onslaught, which will see Jeep double its offerings and Dodge return fire on the Mustang with its own retro-cool Challenger muscle car.

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Interesting differences in what the two articles say... I could be wrong, but still believe the car has been approved for production... but it could still be canceled at the last minute if it is not well received by the public (not just the motorheads here... )

Here is a quote from a former Chrysler employee on Allpar...

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from Allpar.Com thread on the Challenger concept car:
(the guys at DCX are going to shoot me for the following...but here goes....)

An S1 is production intent. What this means is that the architecture of the vehicle (the way parts fit together and are assembled) is finished, the platform is finished (how the car will be assembled from a human production standpoint), and the feasability is finished (the "how the heck do we do this? portion). The only major hurdle to overcome is the production tooling (the "hard tooling") and installation in the real production plant, not the advanced manufacturing plant at Auburn Hills. The destign is also finished-what you see is what you get. The only way the car can be changed now into a 4 door is if there has been one developed concurrently with the 2 door. The only possible thing top go "wrong" is the potential (and it IS real) that final funding is not approved for production. In terms of cost-they are at the breakover point with S1. It is now "do it or don't do it" decision time. There are no other options.

To explain all the details that scream "S1" to me would take pages and I am sure that I would miss some. In general, it is the "theme" of the car-meaning how well the various legal requirements are integrated into the vehicle, how well the ergonomics are integrated (vision sight lines, etc) the completeness of the design. For example- rarely do you see working windows on a concept car (like the 1999 Charger), in these pictures, altho there COULD be removable windows, I doubt it beacuse that assumption (fixed windows) do not fit in with the other details that are present.

I am sorry I don't have more time to go into more detail...I'll try to later...

Best regards.....

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QUOTE(hemidakota @ Nov 28 2005, 10:54 AM)

I do agree with Bob. This car is beyond the concept level.

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The best all-around performing cars for less than $40,000 are the Evo and STi, and both of them have 4 doors. In the One Lap of America top 10, three of them had four doors (300C SRT8, SRT-4, and Evo).

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Having just taken a Mustang from LA to Vegas and then to Frisco....and then had the opportunity to beat on a Charger SRT8 for 30 mins...I can tell you there is NO comparison.....absolutely NONE....the SRT drives like a gen Hi $$$$ European sports car..the Mustang drives like a sago pudding.....

and I'll say once again...DCX execs don't go winking at Joe Blow and getting all pumped over one off concepts...the new Chally WILL be a reality.

l8r.

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The best all-around performing cars for less than $40,000 are the Evo and STi, and both of them have 4 doors. In the One Lap of America top 10, three of them had four doors (300C SRT8, SRT-4, and Evo).

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Ok NEVER should never be said. I couldnt tell you what kind of car that is but judging by its movements it isnt a stellar performer it just sat there.
If I were here to debate every car obviously you would be correct to say a Four door can be an exceptional handling or performance vehichle. But my intended point is still acurate, If it was a 2 door it would be that much better.And likley look way better which = more desirable to me.
I am sure that the 300C SRT8 ,SRT-4,AND EVO were bone stock.
I am absolutly positive they were taken down to the local TUNER shop for the works which was paid for by DODGE other than the EVO. A two door version would out perfom each of these cars for no other reason than mass.Its not how much power you have its how little mass you must move or turn. More doors more mass! Speaking of MASS the massive amount of people who like two doors muscle/pony/sports cars are partly the reason for two doors being faster "read MUSTANG/CAMARO". Its not GM or FORD or even DODGE who make these cars stellar performers its the entrepreneur enthusiast who makes our cars such exceptional performers by supplying superior parts than OEM.

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A two door version would out perfom each of these cars for no other reason than mass. More doors more mass!

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