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Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1897923
08/23/15 09:46 PM
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Take another wire and go from one of the ignition on wires to the terminal that should be hot at the relay. See if the truck will start then.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1897947
08/23/15 10:17 PM
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Pics of what you're seeing? Doesn't sound stock.


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Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1897951
08/23/15 10:20 PM
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It is not stock. They are joined by simple inline connectors. I will update with pics tomorrow after work. I really appreciate the help and advice from everyone.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1898572
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What I was describing was for my Trailer brake. I did not find a fusible link anywhere from the fuse block to the Power distribution center or to the battery. Someone also installed an automatic starter that never really worked and they did an ok job but damn there are alot of wires under that dash now. I did unplug the inline engine connector in the PDC and used contact cleaner and dielectric grease but the bolt is stripped. It seems tight but not like I would like. Still no start. I am leery about using a jump wire from power to the asd relay until I find out why it is not working.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: stumpy] #1898654
08/24/15 10:07 PM
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circuit #86 of the relay is key on power and is fused first possibly fuse #9??. turn key on should have power in and out of fuse to circuit 86 of the relay. This lg/bk wire goes to asd relay,fuel pump relay, and 2 different spots to the PCM. ( this is the wire that i have fixed numerous times)
circuit 30 of the asd relay is power all times, it is also fused. 30 amp fuse location #6. this comes out of circuit 87 of the relay and goes to injectors and coil?, dg/or wire.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899349
08/25/15 09:12 PM
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I jumped power from the positive cable to #86 and still does not start. I messed up my shoulder today and I work late tomorrow so I am done for the night but back @ it in the morning.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899443
08/25/15 11:26 PM
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I feel like an idiot. I jumped the wrong terminal. I got it to run when I jumped power to #87. Now I need to know how to fix the circuit 30 wire.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899569
08/26/15 02:39 AM
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Asd feed supply. If you have voltage at the fuse then you have a bad PDC. If so pull it up and figure how you can wire from fuse to the #30 terminal of the relay.

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Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899705
08/26/15 12:59 PM
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I have a 30 amp blade type inline fuse. Do you think I could splice from one of the other power wires that goes to another fuse or at least go to the battery + cable?

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899763
08/26/15 02:35 PM
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Are you saying the fuse is good? If yes ck the thermial that the fuse goes into to see if it is spread and not making contrat. For testing yes,but for a proper repair it's best tto find the problem. ASD relay drives a lot of things.

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Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899782
08/26/15 03:05 PM
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The 30A fuse has power to it but not to the asd. That is why I thought maybe just putting an inline fuse from another power wire to the ASD would work.


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Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899961
08/26/15 08:34 PM
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Can you pull the PDC up anf flip it over and open it up? It's been a awhile since I had worked on one. if so you can see the bad wire part. Unless its seal up.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: SALEM1912] #1899968
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I have the pdc open and i can see all the wires.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1899974
08/26/15 09:06 PM
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Well find the wire that goes from the fuse to pin 35 on the relay repair or replace it.

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1900182
08/27/15 02:29 AM
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Used to fix a ton of Dakota's with a no-start....90% of the time it was a red/white wire going to the PCM which had corroded at a splice in the harness. This was a B+ battery power to the PCM. ASD's etc will NOT turn on without the PCM powering up....
The splices are usually along the left inner fender area...on a Full-size it could be along the firewall...time to start stripping the harness....

Re: 98 Ram no start [Re: 318Bruiser] #1900432
08/27/15 03:02 PM
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It is fixed. I feel stupid. It was the fuse. Always check the easiest first, I learned again for the hundredth time. Thank you all for the help.

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