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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: KillerBee]
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11/23/05 08:11 PM
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should I dare say my dream...CONVERTIBLE?? maybe??
Well if they don't build it at least it's a new direction to go with my convertible project! Dave.   
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: Mass_Mopar]
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11/23/05 10:14 PM
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I remember the day that concept was unveiled, that my hopes for its production were crushed as soon as I read "its Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) fuel produces negligible emissions at the tail pipes."
Many times concept vehicles are used in multiple ways. Concepts are not a single package
but groups things together for public exposure.
Future styling direction. Perhaps only some of the styling ideas will make it to a production car.
New vehicle configuration. Perhaps interior layout or exterior design. New ideas.
New technology. Sometimes just to show what could be, not what will be.
The 4.7 CNG was never meant for production. I think it was just to try to show that a small powerful clean engine was possible.
I'm glad the 2 door crowd will be getting a good looking car.
I'm disappointed that families like mine that prefer the ergonomics of 4 doors
don't have anything near as good looking being offered by DCX.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: xs29j8]
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11/23/05 11:16 PM
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Yet again I am amazed! the best news to come for us Mopar fans for years, confirmed by reliable sources and yet the naysayers still want to crush the dream !
Lighten up and get excited !
 I have spoken to three seperate sources today that I consider reliable.
1) The concept car exists
2) The spy pictures are real (although one source had not seen them before I showed him)
3) Sounds like the car may be much closer to production than we thought, ie. 2007 model released next year (in line with what MM said Eric Andrew told him)
4) No pricing information yet
5) There may be minor differences from the concept car, but no '99 Charger concept car fiasco...
I trust these people, and fully BELIEVE that this will happen... I can hardly wait for January and late next year (actually maybe next Summer).
I will be off-line for the next several days, don't need the distraction of the arguments about whether the car is real. I haven't seen it, but fully believe it is!
Maybe when I get back on-line this weekend it will be all sorted out... right?!? 
Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!! 
XS
Here is another site that is reporting the news:
http://www.thecarconnection.com
The photos on The Car Connection are pretty large,and have better detail than the AutoWeek photos.
The spy photos were taken by Brenda Priddy, who was has Copyrighted the images. Brenda is one of the most well known automotive spy photo journalist, and thus this would provide additional proof that THESE PHOTOS ARE REAL!!  
I think I will wait for the Convertible to be produced, and then there will be no holding me back from buying a loaded one in Sublime Green with white interior and Pistol Grip shifter.
DCX don't screw this up, or I'll jump off a building!!
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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11/24/05 12:56 AM
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Come on we all know they'll find away to screw it up if they build it  No doubt it won't be cheap, but if its close to that count me in to. Dunno how Id afford it, but I like it! The charger concept 
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: 68KillerBee]
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11/24/05 01:22 AM
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does n e body know how to zoom into the rear q'panel. im pretty sure it says challenger, it looks weird though. like cursive writing and its a decal. dont know 
The resolution isn't high enough to see it really, we'll have to wait.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: DirectSubjection]
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11/24/05 02:52 AM
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producing a 'Cuda conversion kit equally as cool like that one rendering ive seen
Eew - who would want a Cuda? 
beats me, i just have a pile barracuda. id have to wait for a matching barracuda kit to come out, coulndt say i had matching cars...cant call a 'cuda a barracuda  
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: DirectSubjection]
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11/24/05 02:56 AM
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producing a 'Cuda conversion kit equally as cool like that one rendering ive seen
Eew - who would want a Cuda?
I'd rather have a BARRAcuda. 
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: cal_gecko]
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11/24/05 06:34 AM
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Too much 2nd and 3rd hand information thus far for anything to be called 'reliable' or 'trustworthy'.. so far, we've heard about people who know people who have verified the existence of this concept car, or we have seen a form email that was sent in response to an email sent to DCX..
And the photos.. poor quality, low resolution.. easily photoshopped. so far, this is all about as believable as the lochness monster
2nd or 3rd hand????? Here are news reports quoting very "official" sources......
On Monday Dodge released this sketch of the new Challenger that, in addition to the amazing spy shots caught by AutoWeek, give us a really good idea of how the newest muscle car on the block will present itself once it’s unveiled at the Detroit Auto Show. The automotive press has been fielding mixed reactions about the car’s design, though we’re pretty sure it’s sweet. The look is very retro, almost to the point where it’s not so much a reinterpretation of a past design but an old design itself. Some have also speculated about whether it will have two or four doors. The spy shots and the sketch indicate the concept will have a proper pair of doors, and we can’t imagine the company would field another four-door muscle car alongside the Charger. One thing’s for “almost” certain, this car is coming. It’s everything but official and we’re predicting the reaction to the Challenger concept in Detroit will be universally positive, if for no other reason than folks want to see the Big 3 go at it again in this arena.
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The 2006 Dodge Challenger concept resurrects another authentic American muscle car for the Dodge brand and continues to build on the success and heritage of the Hemi engine. "This concept possesses the heritage and classic forms of the original Dodge Challenger," said Trevor Creed, Senior Vice President - Chrysler Group Design. "However, the ability to use the Dodge Magnum, Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300 series architecture as the concept's foundation allowed us to bring a new level of quality and fit-and-finish to a muscle car icon."
After hiatus, Challenger to rejoin Dodge lineup
By Jim Mateja
Tribune auto reporter
Published November 21, 2005
LAS VEGAS -- Chrysler has again returned to the past to come up with a car for the future.
Chrysler, which looked to the 1970s muscle car era to create the 2006 Dodge Charger, has gone back to that time to pluck out another muscle car nameplate, the Challenger. It's on a concept of a car that's expected to join the Dodge lineup soon.
Dodge told the media gathered here for a look at 10 vehicles the company will introduce on next year's auto-show circuit that Challenger will bow at the Detroit Auto Show in January.
Though Challenger is expected to join the Dodge lineup in about a year, Tom Tremont, vice president of advance product design for Chrysler Group, wouldn't confirm that timetable.
Challenger is derived from the same platform as the Chrysler 300 sedan, with two major changes. It is built on a shorter wheelbase, 116 inches versus 120, and it's a two-door not a four-door.
"With Charger we have a muscle sedan; with Challenger; a muscle coupe," Tremont said.
As another 300 derivative, along with the Dodge Magnum and Charger and Charger police car, Challenger continues the automaker's commitment to platform sharing. That ensures plants run at full capacity and, thus, profitably.
Tremont said the concept takes its styling from the 1970s Challenger, complete with hood scoops.
It also is another showcase for Chrysler's Hemi V-8 engine, which accounts for more than 40 percent of sales of the vehicles in which it's offered.
Challenger features the 6.1-liter, 425-horsepower version with a 6-speed manual transmission.
Chrysler officials wouldn't speculate on Challenger volume, though most expected a limited build of 5,000 to 10,000 annually.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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11/24/05 08:18 AM
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I'll be waiting until someone gets brave and tears into one...producing a 'Cuda conversion kit equally as cool like that one rendering ive seen 
This would be cool and I dont doubt someone will make it, but as far as I can tell the Challenger has a contour that runs along the body like the original Challenger. That alone would keep me from trying to make it a Barracuda, but maybe they can pull it off nicely
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Re: new Challenger?
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11/24/05 09:37 AM
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Chrysler officials wouldn't speculate on Challenger volume, though most expected a limited build of 5,000 to 10,000 annually.
????? I could sell that many to Moparts members alone in the first month!....unless they stick Viper price tag on it! It's almost like DCX doesn't want to admit they were "off base" with the Charger, and they are convinced that a 2 door muscle car can't sell.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: InViolent]
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11/24/05 10:51 AM
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Chrysler officials wouldn't speculate on Challenger volume, though most expected a limited build of 5,000 to 10,000 annually.
????? I could sell that many to Moparts members alone in the first month!....unless they stick Viper price tag on it! It's almost like DCX doesn't want to admit they were "off base" with the Charger, and they are convinced that a 2 door muscle car can't sell.
I was quite surprised at that number myself. I thought that was really low, especially if they come out with low-priced v6 models. But then again, I thought 60k units for the Charger was very optimistic. So far I have been wrong on that statement, but the year isnt over yet.
They might make it as a limited production for the purpose of holding up demand(and prices) and filling in capacity at the plant when the other models slow down. Just a thought.
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Re: new Challenger?
[Re: BirdinPieces]
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11/24/05 11:11 AM
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In regards to price remember that there is not a reason for the car to be priced anymore than any of the current LX platform cars. Demand? Sure that's a good reason but remember that DCX has sold about twice the amount of 300s as originally expected and the price has not changed.
Also, unlike the Viper (which is mostly hand built and shares a platform with nothing) the Challenger wont cost anymore to build than a Charger. If you want a good explanation as to why, check out the Challenger thread on Allpar in the news and rumors section. The last 10 pages or so (it's on 27 now) help explain alot.
With that said, i doubt we'll see this car within a year. The date posted on the other board is saying the first one will roll off the line on 3/24/07, but we all know that can change. Hopefully by this date in 2007, we can all have one in our garage.
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