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Re: new Challenger? [Re: Jeff_T] #18933
11/23/05 02:27 PM
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Why is it so hard to believe that that car is the concept Challenger?




Ummmm because experience has conditioned them to disbelieve anything Daimler says???


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Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18934
11/23/05 02:29 PM
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Why would they have a 90's Toyota Sienna there ?




I'd assume the photographers or someone else not in the pic drove it there.


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Re: new Challenger? [Re: DirectSubjection] #18935
11/23/05 02:32 PM
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Yet again I am amazed! the best news to come for us Mopar fans for years, confirmed by reliable sources and yet the naysayers still want to crush the dream !

Lighten up and get excited !

Re: new Challenger? [Re: DirectSubjection] #18936
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It just seems a bit odd that they would have a Toyota. Wouldn't DC have their own personal photographers to do that ? I myself don't even think that they're photographers. The car might have been being tested. For all we know, This could be a highly customized Charger. Remember those Chevelle's being built by Aloha automotive a year or so ago that were based on GTO's ?

I'm not trying to "crush the dream". But people are getting excited over this car thinking they're going to be ordering the same exact thing they see here. Remember the Hemi 300 Convertible concept a few years ago ? And how can we forget the Charger we were promised in '99.

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Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18937
11/23/05 02:36 PM
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Why would they have a 90's Toyota Sienna there ? Also, Look at the headlights closely. They don't all seem to be in proportion with each other. Some look like they're higher than other and some look like they're out further than the others. The grille looks like it's recessed in too far too. DaimlerChrysler might be giving you a fake grille in those pictures so you don't know what the exact car will look like if these pictures are real.




But the artists conception released by Chrysler has the same exact grill.


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Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18938
11/23/05 02:38 PM
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It just seems a bit odd that they would have a Toyota. Wouldn't DC have their own personal photographers to do that ? I myself don't even think that they're photographers. The car might have been being tested. For all we know, This could be a highly customized Charger. Remember those Chevelle's being built by Aloha automotive a year or so ago that were based on GTO's ?

I'm not trying to "crush the dream". But people are getting excited over this car thinking they're going to be ordering the same exact thing they see here. Remember the Hemi 300 Convertible concept a few years ago ? And how can we forget the Charger we were promised in '99.




Chrysler contracts outside companies to perform their photography for release to the press. It may very well be their van.


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Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18939
11/23/05 02:40 PM
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It just seems a bit odd that they would have a Toyota. Wouldn't DC have their own personal photographers to do that ?




And wouldn't they want to let all sorts of other photographers and magazine see it too? That's why the light is hooked on to the one side in the pic. That's enough of this conspracy talk for me.

Do I think the production model may vary? Sure - impact regulations may dictate it. Time will tell.


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Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18940
11/23/05 02:46 PM
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And how can we forget the Charger we were promised in '99.





the charger we were promised???? I remember the day that concept was unveiled, that my hopes for its production were crushed as soon as I read "its Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) fuel produces negligible emissions at the tail pipes." I for one was never expecting anything more than a concept out of that one.

Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18941
11/23/05 02:48 PM
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And how can we forget the Charger we were promised in '99.




This is exactly what I'm talking about. No one promised you anything, nor owes you anything in regards to the concept 99 charger. I'll keep my personal opinions about that particular car out of this (I thought it was ugly as all get-out) but regardless, it was a concept vehicle, like a number of concepts that never make it to market, like a convert superbird. did you hold an eternal grudge against the company when they didn't send that one out the production line bay doors? I think its just a bandwagon thing now. Like "See who can hate daimler more and seem like an angstfilled teenager"

Re: new Challenger? [Re: DirectSubjection] #18942
11/23/05 02:58 PM
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Could thay cram anymore objects, scenery & shadows into those photos?

Re: new Challenger? [Re: origcharger] #18943
11/23/05 03:01 PM
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Could thay cram anymore objects, scenery & shadows into those photos?




The point is that the objects and scenery are part of what makes it obviously real. most photochopped vehicles don't have people and other vehicles around, let alone all the shadows that would have to be matched and scenery that could get fumbled around on the outter edge of the main project. Furthermore, why include photographers and photography equipment, then put your name on the photo, the name of a renound spy shot photographer.

If its fake, someone is paying THOUSANDS of dollars and going really out of there way just to make some people think it might happen, and then even still, for chrysler to admit that it is goign to be shown at auto shows? I understand the original few "i dunno, it looks a little fakeish" comments, but after all that has come to light, come on guys.

Re: new Challenger? #18944
11/23/05 03:42 PM
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Yet again I am amazed! the best news to come for us Mopar fans for years, confirmed by reliable sources and yet the naysayers still want to crush the dream !

Lighten up and get excited !




I have spoken to three seperate sources today that I consider reliable.

1) The concept car exists
2) The spy pictures are real (although one source had not seen them before I showed him)
3) Sounds like the car may be much closer to production than we thought, ie. 2007 model released next year (in line with what MM said Eric Andrew told him)
4) No pricing information yet
5) There may be minor differences from the concept car, but no '99 Charger concept car fiasco...

I trust these people, and fully BELIEVE that this will happen... I can hardly wait for January and late next year (actually maybe next Summer).

I will be off-line for the next several days, don't need the distraction of the arguments about whether the car is real. I haven't seen it, but fully believe it is!

Maybe when I get back on-line this weekend it will be all sorted out... right?!?

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

XS

Re: new Challenger? [Re: xs29j8] #18945
11/23/05 03:47 PM
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Happy Thanksgiving and I sure appreciate all the hope.
Let all the skeptics start their own post.
And Let the other 99% of us Live our Dream


It don't mean nothing..the words that you say! 65 & 66 Dart, 67 notch, 90 RamVan, 91 Rollback 5.9 '70 SE Challenger 383L matchin' ... but another man never would have let her go.. I stashed the bill in my shirt.
Re: new Challenger? [Re: xs29j8] #18946
11/23/05 03:59 PM
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Yet again I am amazed! the best news to come for us Mopar fans for years, confirmed by reliable sources and yet the naysayers still want to crush the dream !

Lighten up and get excited !




I have spoken to three seperate sources today that I consider reliable.

1) The concept car exists
2) The spy pictures are real (although one source had not seen them before I showed him)
3) Sounds like the car may be much closer to production than we thought, ie. 2007 model released next year (in line with what MM said Eric Andrew told him)
4) No pricing information yet
5) There may be minor differences from the concept car, but no '99 Charger concept car fiasco...

I trust these people, and fully BELIEVE that this will happen... I can hardly wait for January and late next year (actually maybe next Summer).

I will be off-line for the next several days, don't need the distraction of the arguments about whether the car is real. I haven't seen it, but fully believe it is!

Maybe when I get back on-line this weekend it will be all sorted out... right?!?

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

XS




Happy Thanksgiving Allen. I will be waiting to order mine also!!! Can't wait.

I also shot you an E-mail yesterday!! Thanks, Patrick

Re: new Challenger? #18947
11/23/05 04:58 PM
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I can also confirm the car is real.....confirmed through my own sources who have seen the vehicle first hand.

I guess all we can do, for those of us who genuinely like it and want to see it get built, is make sure we tell dcx. Haven't been to the DETROIT AUTO SHOW (aka naias ) in years but I will go just to put in a good word for that car and do some schmoozin'.

Re: new Challenger? [Re: ZIPPY] #18948
11/23/05 05:22 PM
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I also will be inline at my local Dodge dealer to buy one if they build it like that. I just hope if they build that car that its not to long down the road for the convertible version to be produced. Thats what I want, fully loaded!

Re: new Challenger? [Re: ZIPPY] #18949
11/23/05 06:19 PM
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Hey Zip - what are the Detroit show dates?


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Re: new Challenger? [Re: dezduster] #18950
11/23/05 07:34 PM
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I resemble that remark. Yes I did and I hope you did to.





I didn't, because I didn't think they would actually listen.

Re: new Challenger? [Re: sixpakdodge] #18951
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Remember the Hemi 300 Convertible concept a few years ago ? And how can we forget the Charger we were promised in '99.





They never promised a 300 ragtop. As for the 99 Charger, it WASN'T a DCX concept. When Chrysler got taken over, many head Chrysler guys left, and the 99 pretty much left along with them.

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I resemble that remark. Yes I did and I hope you did to.





I didn't, because I didn't think they would actually listen.




Kinda like why vote, what difference will my vote make?

Never too late to say you did.. I think the sooner the better..
Voices of approval and suggestion,, We are their market for this Challenger.
How can it hurt?

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