I am having some issues with the stock style p/up that came with my Summit 70-71 6 quart oil pan. I see that 440 source has a p/up specifically made for this type of pan and a stroker windage tray. I am using a Milodon tray FWIW. Has anyone used this p/up? I'm considering ordering one as a last ditch effort.

If I decide to get away from the 6 quart deal what is the best oil pan for ground clearance. 511" low deck, 7500 RPM max street strip deal. I'd like to stick with an internal p/up.

Thoughts? I am going to use TTI step headers with a stock front suspension i that helps narrow it down. Those Milodon road race pans are cool looking but in-car maintenance looks like it would be a nightmare! I'm going to try and build a belly pan instead of using a daper. Is that a pipe dream?

Thanks for reading!

I just did one like that. I ended up cutting the pickup tube and modifying it. I also cut the welds off the pan
and brought the windage closer to the crank and re welded it. It would be nice if you could buy something that works!

The fitment on your windage tray is sloppy. Needs to be closer to the crank, but I still don't know if the bends in your pickup will clear. Try to install the pickup tube first and then slide the tray back into position.

I would actually try the non-stroker tray with the 4.25 arm and 2.20 rod journal. I bet it is close enough that you could easily clearance the tray at the rub points.

I use the MP pick-up with the "six-pack" pan without issue. Be sure to also pre-check that the dip stick actually clears the windage tray.

I used a 6qt Hemi/SixPack pan, 1/2" Hemi PU and OEM tray on a 505" wedge.

I made two mods. I offset drilled the block for the 1/2" PU for more material around the block's PU boss and I had to slot the OEM tray for rod bolt clearance.
This was back in 1990 before the economy cranks and rods. I used an old Mickey Thompson 4.25 crank, '64 Max Wedge rods and a OEM tray.

That looks like a Milodon PU and will be too long, try a 3/8" OEM PU for the 6qt pan.

What about the jegs one piece windage tray and gasket?

I've used the stock Mopar windage tray and enlarged the slots slightly on the sides on my old Duster motor, with the 4.25 and 4.300 stroke cranks with H beam BB Chevy type rods. I did use two cork/rubber oil pan gaskets(one on each side of thr tray) as well as using one of my home made crankshaft scrapers on the passenger side with half of a oil pan gasket glued to the block on the other side I used the stock 6 quart 1970/71 Mopar street hemi/440 6 pak oil pan also with the stock Mopar 3/8 pickup Summit now sells there 1970/71 6 quart hemi clone oil pan at a lot better price That car went 9.993 ET at 134.6MPH on Oregon 91 octane pump swill through the muffs with the air cleaner on in Woodburn in the summer I did find out I needed to keep the oil level above the add line cold to avoid having the oil pressure drop on the other end when I let off I checked the oil level with 6 quarts in that pan with the timing cover off, it was below the windage tray about a half to 3/4 inch with the motor semi level on a engine stand IHTHs

I had clearance issues with the 440 source pickup so make sure it clears your rotating assembly before you bolt the pan on DAMHIK
I ended up going with the stock type pick-up with the Milodon HEMI replacement pan.
Gus

Thanks for everybody's insight on this. I went ahead and ordered both a stock depth and a "competition radius" windage tray as well as a stroker pickup made to work with stroker cranks and the 70-71 Hemi pan. I also ordered a stock replacement pickup like the one shown above to play with.

The way this engine build is going, I'll be the next one to write a book to help recoup against the catalog worth of parts I have purchased to figure out what works lol.

Stay tuned for results and pictures.

Sounds like you will get it one way or another. On my setup, the MP/Mancini 3/8" pickup and pan works fine with the MP windage tray. Low deck with 4.15" stroke and OE size rod journals. I don't spin past 6,500 ... I think more changes are needed as you get to 7,000 and beyond.

Good luck!

I keep a full collection of windage trays on hand since some pickups fit some trays but not others. I think there are 5 or 6 different trays made these days including MP, 440Source, Milodon and Jegs.

And we're off...

This is the special stroker pickup for a 5" pan. Doesn't fit anything lol.

This is a stock style replacement tray. I'll stop at the machine shop and see how the trays look on the mocked up short block. I didn't feel like making a giant(er) mess in the shop with cranks, rods, bearings, etc.

And that completes today's complete waste of disposable income!

Okay folks, I spent some time working on this and sure enough the stock depth tray fits the 70-71 HEMI pan with the performace style pickup. The unit that came with the pan is the same as the 440 source "stroker" pickup. Both the "competition" and Mildon 4.5" trays were a mile away from the crank and rods.

For reference this is a 4.25 stroke, 2.200 rod journal, h-beam connecting rod deal.

Now hopefully the next poor sap won't have to buy $150 of stuff he doesn't need to figure this out lol.

Thanks again for all of the ideas and instruction!

Before I went to ext line. I used to weld a tab on the pickup and windage tray, and bolt them together.
Th length of the tube has a lot of leverage. I dropped the pan and the tube was cracked near the PU boss. Probably from 1' wheels up launches!
Ray thought it was a good idea when he saw it.

I like the way your last 2 pickups sit flat to the pan!
Don