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Another Clutch Problem - Need Help #1863484
07/04/15 01:06 PM
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Looking at this pressure plate it does not look like there is much room for the fingers to push in to release the pressure plate. Does this look ok to you guys?

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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1863491
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Hard to tell from the pics, but is the clutch disc installed the correct way?


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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Silver70] #1863492
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Looks like the disc is TOO thick.
Miss/matched parts.????

Adjustable clutches use shims under the PP to set pressure range/height,but that isn`t adjustable???

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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1863516
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Height doesn't look right. Height from flywheel surface to clutch finger height should be roughly 2". I haven't used Mcleod clutches before, but I have always adjusted Ram B&B plates to the proper height with the 3 clutch finger nuts. Most of the time, they come preset slightly low, too. They are staked, but can be adjusted and restaked or loctited in place. I would probably pull the bellhousing off and look through the sides of the P/P opennings to verify that the disc is flat and installed right side up. Disc should only be around .350" thick or less and sitting flat. If you see an air gap, it is installed upside down.


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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1863724
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Magnifying it as best I can, it looks like you have the clutch disc installed facing the wrong way. That will not work.

Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1863776
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I took it apart and the clutch disc is in right. Maybe its not the right one, but it defiantly was in right. I had a used PP and disc from another project and bolted it up. It did the same thing. When I torque down the PP housing the PP face comes in and the finger move in like it is being depressed. There is about 1/2" space behind the finger to the clutch disc when it is installed. I just don't think it is right but not sure what to do? But just to verify, the protruding side faces the transmission right? The flywheel side is flat all the way across.

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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1863859
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Yes, you have it installed right. Bolt the clutch setup to the flywheel. Use a vernier caliper set to 2" and drop the depth pin onto the flywheel surface. Adjust the fingers to the base of the caliper. Restake the adjuster nuts with a center punch. Put your bellhousing back on and you should be good to go.


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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1863991
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So it is a common thing to have to adjust the fingers on a new PP? I don't mean to direct anger to you guys, just PO'ed that I would have to do that, assuming I can..


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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1864011
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Check how thick your disc is. The thicker the disc, the lower the fingers will end up. Chrysler standard thickness is .310" A dual friction or metallic disc might be made thicker. I couldn't tell you what McLeod does. But I always check and adjust my Ram clutches before final install.


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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: sgcuda] #1864240
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[img][IMG]http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv190/Cudajon/Clutch/IMG_0355_zps90dcd2bf.jpg[/img][/img]

Here's a brand new Centerforce Disc. As you can see its .348". Thats about normal for a disc.

Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1864606
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Clutch disk direction is correct.

You did remove the 3 plastic spacers right?
Per the instructions...

When installing a clutch with long or Borg & Beck you must remove the 3 plastic spacers from between the fingers and cover before you install.

I just got done installing McLeod clutch set-up and everything looks great.

Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1865204
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I ran McCleods for years and never had to adjust any.Something is not right from the pic.Rocky


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Re: Another Clutch Problem - Need Help [Re: Mopar_Mike] #1865401
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Originally Posted By Mopar_Mike
I took it apart and the clutch disc is in right. Maybe its not the right one, but it defiantly was in right. I had a used PP and disc from another project and bolted it up. It did the same thing. When I torque down the PP housing the PP face comes in and the finger move in like it is being depressed. There is about 1/2" space behind the finger to the clutch disc when it is installed. I just don't think it is right but not sure what to do? But just to verify, the protruding side faces the transmission right? The flywheel side is flat all the way across.
I've seen clutches that had the spring mounting plates mounted to te crank side, not the tranny side confused Call the clutch company with your part numbers and ask them which way to face the disc scopeup twocents Most clucth disc will have a small decal with flywheel side named on it, normally the flat side, sometimes not shruggy Does the clutch disc hang over the pressure plate, wider on the lining than the plate size? If so that is your problem scope

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