Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/05/09 02:39 AM
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I would not try to reflash the OEM ECU. To many new things to consider. I can supply the FAST hardware that will handle any boost level and use your existing multiport manifold. If you're interested I can send you an estimate, but I'd need a few answers to these questions: * Would you be using a distributor? * What boost level? * Do you have a throttle body? * Target HP range? Rich Nedbal www.fastmanefi.com
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/05/09 12:13 PM
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I would not try to reflash the OEM ECU. To many new things to consider.
I can supply the FAST hardware that will handle any boost level and use your existing multiport manifold.
If you're interested I can send you an estimate, but I'd need a few answers to these questions: * Would you be using a distributor? * What boost level? * Do you have a throttle body? * Target HP range?
Rich Nedbal www.fastmanefi.com
Probably be using a stock late model magnum dist. Though i'd like some boost retardability at wot, not sure if that's possible with the stock dist. Boost level is undetermined at this time. Don't yet know if i'd build an engine around it or buy a crate motor and turbo it later down the road. Compression ratio makes a BIG difference, so does timing control. Basically would tune it to whatever I can get away with on 92. on my GN that's 19 psi. Doubt i'd get that out of a magnum though. Does your fast system have a knock sensor input? I like that a lot, some light knock is inaudible. Throttle body would be a stock magnum unless that is unusable for some reason. HP range would be whatever I got out of it. though it would be a mild build. Heads would get minor work with turbo in mind, turbo cam with factory hyd. roller lifters if possible, stock magnum intake, probably build off of stock type exhaust manifolds to start with. I know that stock hardware will get you a LONG way when it's under pressure. Budget is a word I will be using often.
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/05/09 01:25 PM
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I wouldn't use a stock mag intake, personally...the 2 piece construction (open plenum bottom with a gasketed base plate) probably won't hold up to much boost. at the very least you'd want to use the hughes bottom plate, which is relatively thick aluminum vs. the stock lightweight sheet metal. I'd probably just buck up and get an M1 single plane
plumbing, you're probably better off using an LS1/3G hemi/ford 4.6/5.4 type of throttle body on an elbow vs. a stock magnum one.
stock magnum dizzy is essentially just a hall effects trigger (no mech or vac advance built in), the computer controls all advance function....you should be able to use it for timing control
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/05/09 01:38 PM
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go over to Dakotart.com, there are many people over there running boost on their trucks. All late magnum blocks and some R3 blocks. Their is a variety of methods from stand alone systems to Tuning the stock pcm. One thing for sure is do not use the stock intake. Look at something like a Mopar M1 intake.
Rob Dunn 1976 Dart Sport 360 2000 dakota RT 408 with 150 nitrous 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 2009 Jeep Patriot
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/05/09 04:25 PM
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* Probably be using a stock late model magnum dist. * I'd like some boost retardability at wot. * Does your fast system have a knock sensor input? * Budget is a word I will be using often.
I'd use a dual-sync distributor to get the sequential injection.
You have total timing control with FAST, so boost retard, etc is totally programmable.
Yes, FAST works with a knock sensor.
Budget ??? Well that's another issue all together. The FAST ECU is $1600, and the main harness is $300. You could use your own injectors, manifold, throttle body, coolant sensor, etc. FAST does provide boost control as well. Good luck ...
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/05/09 05:16 PM
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if you already have an ecu, contact hemifever on here. He does SCT tunes and can customize them for your vehicle. He does the ones for the magnum motor and will probably be way under that price. He can program you one for boost and then one for na. when I get the money for my next upgrade he will be doing the tune for my truck.
Rob Dunn 1976 Dart Sport 360 2000 dakota RT 408 with 150 nitrous 2013 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi 2009 Jeep Patriot
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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MP sells an M1 single plane intake that uses stock injectors/fuel rails/throttle body, it's under $500.
hughes sells a modified eddie air gap magnum manifold to accept stock components, too
the magnum single plane carb manifold has bungs cast in, they'd just need to be machined, and then stock style injectors/fuel rails will fit....then an elbow that bolts to a square bore manifold could be used to then run a large single (hemi/4.7/LS1/ford mustang style) throttle body.
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Re: So is anyone pressurizing a 360 magnum?
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01/06/09 06:43 AM
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go over to Dakotart.com,
Im ashamed to admit it took me 20 seconds to figure out what "dako-tart" was!!
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