restoration question...long..
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Hey guys, Not sure if I should post this in general or here. Anyways, I am at a crossroads and am not sure what to do. I have had my non numbers matching 69 Coronet for 2 years now. Heres some particulars. Originally a 6 cyl, automatic, gold (forgot paint code), black interior, black vinyl top. Now has a 67 383, 65 727, 8 3/4 rear with 742 pumpkin suregrip (3.23 gears), stock stall, and a bad Y2 paint job. Guy I bought it from said 383 has about 15000 on rebuild. Not sure of specs or cam, but seems stock with mild cam. 727 has a shift kit. I have put on a six pack setup, aftermarket fiberglass lift off hood, black steel wheels, and some other minor things (mini starter, 3spd wiper, battery) Wanted to make it "look" like an A12 car, not necessarily a true clone or tribute. I know Ill hear it from the A12 guys for that. I have torn off the vinyl top and surprisingly it is not too bad underneath. Just some surface rust where the top meets the quarter panel. It was bondod down by the rear quarter wheel wells and it has started to bubble so that needs to be fixed. It also has the rust issues in the normal places, rear window, lower quarters, etc. I was going to strip the whole car down to bare metal and start over again. Thats where my question comes in. In your opinions, is it worth it to competely strip this car? I mean, is it worth the hours and money for bodywork and paint for a non nombers matching car? I have probly spent about 12K on the car so far (that includes the car itself). I dont know what a resto would cost. Another 10-12K? Is 25-30K overall excessive for a car that is not numbers matching? I know many of you will say that it is my car and to do whatever I want with it. And also that its about the hobby, not the investment. I whole heartedly agree, but I dont want to do something totally stupid either. BTW, I do not plan on winning trophies with the car. It IS a driver. Please share your thoughts and opinions. Good or bad. I appreciate the help.
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Re: restoration question...long..
[Re: newbee69]
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01/02/09 03:24 PM
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40 year old car Repainted at least once Some rust Some old filler You want to treat the car with respect
IMHO, you have no choice to take it to bare metal. Its not that hard, just get friendly with a DA sander, lots of sanding disks, and prepare to get dirty.
Once its stripped you'll be in a MUCH better position to assess the condition and repair the metal that needs repair. If you DON'T strip it down, how are you going to know what's under that paint, and the paint you lay on top?
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Re: restoration question...long..
[Re: bboogieart]
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01/02/09 04:28 PM
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IMHO, you have no choice to take it to bare metal. Its not that hard, just get friendly with a DA sander, lots of sanding disks, and prepare to get dirty
you forgot something.......RESPIRATOR!!!! A good one, you'll appreciate a good face piece when your lying in bed at night snotting and sneezing gold powder.....
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Re: restoration question...long..
[Re: cudabitten]
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01/02/09 05:39 PM
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I have no problems with clone cars that are done correctly. If you are going with the A12 hood, at least drop in an RB with a 6 pack.
Or twin scoop it and throw on some "383" emblems on the scoops.
69 Super Bee, 93 Mustang LX, 04 Allure Super
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Re: restoration question...long..
[Re: 6pkaar]
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01/02/09 07:14 PM
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I look at it this way....it's a hobby. Some guys like to spend half their paycheck at the bar on friday on beer and pool, some like spending their "fun money" on boats, motorcycles etc. You'll probably never see the money back that you're spending on the car, but you're having a good time spending cash on your car. Now, if you ARE spending half your paycheck at the bar, HAVE a boat and motorcycle AND throwing money at your car...........
Lotta truth in that!
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Re: restoration question...long..
[Re: newbee69]
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01/02/09 07:15 PM
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I mean, is it worth the hours and money for bodywork and paint for a non nombers matching car?
Because of it's 6cyl auto origins it's never going to be worth a lot of money other than to someone who wants a good base for a build. That said, it's only worth the extra money to strip completely if you want a perfect paint job and are willing to spend that kind of money. Do what YOU like and enjoy it. If the current paint is suspect you may want to strip it anyway so the new paint doesn't start falling off in a few years. I would not be thinking of the car as an "investment" because of the drive train it came with from the factory. One thing to remember - the person who restores the car spends more that what they can sell it for unless it's a much sought after model.
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Re: restoration question...long..
[Re: newbee69]
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01/02/09 10:04 PM
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How much work can you do yourself, and how much would have to be done at a shop?
Here is where I am at; I enjoy working on the cars as a hobby, and I know that I will be doing more than one car (I have alread done a dozen partial restorations), so I have no issues investing in some of the more expensive tools like a rotessory, compressor, welder, air tools, etc. Eventially I will get around to doind a full restoration on the Convertible. I was going to completly re-do the Coronet 500 too, but the wife needs a driver, so I have been considering just a quick re-paint even though I know a few years down the road I will want to completly re-do it again....
I guess alot depends on how nice you really want the car to be? I believe it is true that it is less expensive to do the car once than twice, but the reality is it could cost $20,000+, but when it is done it will be nearly new, and most new econo-boxes are around $20K, so which would you want to drive?
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