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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: B3422W5]
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11/15/05 04:55 PM
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Kalamazoo, MI
StrokedW7
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I should have my car ready for the Indy race in June.  
Steve
of what year???  
Hey!!! At least I have a car. 
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: scottb]
#18129
11/15/05 05:15 PM
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StrokedW7
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Huh???  They ARE allowed. You just need to add 50 pounds. I should be close to perfect. 3200 base weight less 300 pounds for naturally aspirated add 50 pounds for unconventional heads and 50 pounds for ladder bars (3,000 pounds).  I might have to get a BIGGER bottle... Then I just need to dial in the digital 7 and go have some fun.  Steve
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: PROMAX]
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11/15/05 05:46 PM
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I've signed up as an associate sponsor. Thanks for the opportunity Ben. Good luck to all those who participate !
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: moderncylinder]
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11/15/05 09:08 PM
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Orange County, Ca.
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i dont have whatever it takes to open and read those rules,, why not just post them?? would a nhra ss a/a or b/a car run in that higher class?
jeff
I would assume that if they allowed Super Stockers in, Michael Ogburn would want in at the Vegas race. I invited him to a PSCA race and he seemed to like the racing. I would love to line up against him in a heads up race. Hemi vs. Wedge. What a blast that would be. 
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: moderncylinder]
#18137
11/15/05 09:11 PM
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Ben-Questions on Extreme
Is there a weight penelty for ladder bars and leafs?
Is the clutch assist jerico legal?
What about a 50#-100# minimum reduction for a factory iron head?
Jim
80 AMX Barry Allen 420 AMC Iron Heads Jerico 4-speed Advanced clutch 2950# street legal
5.97 115.73 Coles county dragway 10/28/07
9.42 142.96 best in 08(6.00 115.8 1/8)
5.97 116.2 in 09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXSr201-tmA
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: PROMAX]
#18138
11/15/05 10:08 PM
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We have thought about allowing all cast iron blocks for Muscle Street. The down side is that you can build some big cube motors with a Mega block. Any thoughts or comments?
IMO, it just opens another can of worms, and is outside the intent of an entry level class.
i understand the desire to try and broaden the rules to attract more competitors, but since it IS a heads up class....if the big cube cars start showing up and dominating, you'll lose some of your original competitor base in the process because they will no longer be competitive.
if someone wants to run in a heads up class that is beyond what the intent of Muscle Street is....they need to look at stepping up to the next level.
changing the rules to try and make everyone happy is how just about every good entry level class gets ruined.....my 
also, i have no problem allowing the small blocks to use W5 and Indy heads in the class....so long as they are still used on OE blocks.
if Muscle Street is contested at E-town.....i'd participate.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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11/15/05 10:36 PM
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We have thought about allowing all cast iron blocks for Muscle Street. The down side is that you can build some big cube motors with a Mega block. Any thoughts or comments?
IMO, it just opens another can of worms, and is outside the intent of an entry level class.
i understand the desire to try and broaden the rules to attract more competitors, but since it IS a heads up class....if the big cube cars start showing up and dominating, you'll lose some of your original competitor base in the process because they will no longer be competitive.
if someone wants to run in a heads up class that is beyond what the intent of Muscle Street is....they need to look at stepping up to the next level.
changing the rules to try and make everyone happy is how just about every good entry level class gets ruined.....my
also, i have no problem allowing the small blocks to use W5 and Indy heads in the class....so long as they are still used on OE blocks.
if Muscle Street is contested at E-town.....i'd participate.
If somebody starts dominating with a big cube engine why can't the slower cars in muscle street step up and make their cars faster? My car is a Muscle car that I drive on the street. I would not convert it into a race car just to compete in a heads up class. The more cars that can be qualified to run in the class the more popular the class will become.
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Re: Heads Up Races for 2006
[Re: DodgeCharger]
#18140
11/15/05 10:55 PM
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fast68plymouth
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We have thought about allowing all cast iron blocks for Muscle Street. The down side is that you can build some big cube motors with a Mega block. Any thoughts or comments?
IMO, it just opens another can of worms, and is outside the intent of an entry level class.
i understand the desire to try and broaden the rules to attract more competitors, but since it IS a heads up class....if the big cube cars start showing up and dominating, you'll lose some of your original competitor base in the process because they will no longer be competitive.
if someone wants to run in a heads up class that is beyond what the intent of Muscle Street is....they need to look at stepping up to the next level.
changing the rules to try and make everyone happy is how just about every good entry level class gets ruined.....my
also, i have no problem allowing the small blocks to use W5 and Indy heads in the class....so long as they are still used on OE blocks.
if Muscle Street is contested at E-town.....i'd participate.
If somebody starts dominating with a big cube engine why can't the slower cars in muscle street step up and make their cars faster? My car is a Muscle car that I drive on the street. I would not convert it into a race car just to compete in a heads up class. The more cars that can be qualified to run in the class the more popular the class will become.
you answered your own question.
you dont want to change your car to fit the rules, but you expect someone else to change their car to be competitive so that an allownace can be made so that your car will fit in the class.
if they have a car that they built around the current rules...and the rules change to allow a bunch of faster cars in, and those cars dominate(which they should), most of the other guys either wont compete, or will step up.
if they are forced to step up....they will often step up to another class.
i've seen this same cycle many times in all forms of racing.
when the rules keep getting changed to allow more cars in that are outside the scope of the intent of the rules....the class ends up being a dud because the true entry level guys arent competitive any more, and the higher-end cars can compete in classes with better pay-outs by doing nothing more than jumping into a power adder class.
if aftermarket blocks are allowed....i wouldnt bother with that class any longer.
one more thing....its a little tough to build a new, big CI motor out of a new MegaBlock...when there arent any to be had.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123
Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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