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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: jyrki] #180263
11/24/09 09:31 AM 11/24/09 09:31 AM
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Well I wanted to be safe with the timing. I have it locked at 40 degrees and pulling 1.5 degrees per pound of boost. I have been taking baby steps the whole way just to make sure I do not hurt the motor. I will play with timimg once I get the gear changed.
As far as the converter you are right it is the hardest part. Luckly my buddy that does my converters was with me Saturday looking at the converter data on the computer.
I am not changing 2 things at once for sure. Starting with gears. Then go back to track and look at the data again.
What size tire do you run and what gear?Also what is your finish line rpm?

Cudaman1967 1967 Barracuda Turbo Outlaw 8.50
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: cudaman1967] #180264
11/24/09 09:48 AM 11/24/09 09:48 AM
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CSU! Kevin did a dominator for me.I wouldnt go any where else. Only thing I did to it was lean the primary out 4 jets and adjust the special rear powervalve he invented and AFR;s dead on 11.5




I had talked to him about doing mine a while back. Did he convert yours or did you buy new direct from him. That is good to hear though

One day I will have something cool here.
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: sdaurity] #180265
11/24/09 09:51 AM 11/24/09 09:51 AM
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He convertered and old 1050 I had. It is so smooth to drive. I drive it almost every weekend. Two pumps of gas and fires up and idles.

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: cudaman1967] #180266
11/24/09 10:33 AM 11/24/09 10:33 AM
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That thing is SICK....just plain SICK!!! Awesome car.

67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: FlyFish] #180267
11/24/09 11:32 AM 11/24/09 11:32 AM
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Our basic timing is 40 degrees initial, and it comes down by a little under 1 degree / psi so that at imaginary 26 psi there should be 20 degrees.
Our gear ratio is 4.10, tires are 18.5/33 ET Streets and against the 7500 rpm limiter through the traps at 175 mph. We tried and actually succeeded to lower the converter stall about 500 rpm with oil change; went to SAE 80 wt oil in the trans. Itäs similar to John Deere Hy Gard, but thick and it worked. Of course we couldn't get everything out of the trans, so it's propably about 1/3 ATF and 1/3 SAE 80. Even with teh tightened converter we still use the same fluid, ATF only for colour. The trans internals looked good the last time it was down.

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: jyrki] #180268
11/24/09 12:38 PM 11/24/09 12:38 PM
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Interesting. One thing I do notice it doesnt seem to pull at the upper rpm range. My NA motors always like 7400 rpm. This flat tappet and turbo deal doesnt seem too.

Now is that because of the cam or because of timing so far retarded. Needless to say on the rev limiter by 1000ft at 7400 so needs a gear change. Question is 4.56(which I have on the shelf) or 4.30 or 4.10

I will also play with the converter next year. Nice to have a guy do my stall changes for free...

Cudaman1967 1967 Barracuda Turbo Outlaw 8.50
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: headhunter] #180269
11/24/09 09:28 PM 11/24/09 09:28 PM
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look how far it is away from the cylinder head.normal distance.



Mine were same distance... I had two bungs, one for my ecu and a second for LM1. Never had a problem.





I have mine close to the turbo flange I know they say not to but its been there for over 2 years with alot of passes with c16 and still working fine.

can we see more on your turbo car?



I don't want to hijack this post.... so I started another one My new turbo setup. That pic above was of my old turbo setup from a couple years ago, now I'm finishing up the new setup, which you can see in the post.

"These go to eleven", Nigel Tufnel
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: blownEFI] #180270
11/24/09 09:41 PM 11/24/09 09:41 PM
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look how far it is away from the cylinder head.normal distance.



Mine were same distance... I had two bungs, one for my ecu and a second for LM1. Never had a problem.





I have mine close to the turbo flange I know they say not to but its been there for over 2 years with alot of passes with c16 and still working fine.

can we see more on your turbo car?



I don't want to hijack this post.... so I started another one My new turbo setup. That pic above was of my old turbo setup from a couple years ago, now I'm finishing up the new setup, which you can see in the post.



speaking of pulling at upper rpms....you definetly need more compressor wheel and turbine wheel at that....you have a fairly big motor from what I remember and very good flowing heads.....I would imagine with the 80mm turbo you are flatlining power at around 6500 rpm if not less....

Definetly cool looking barracuda, and put down some very good #'s

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: instigator] #180271
11/24/09 09:44 PM 11/24/09 09:44 PM
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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: blownEFI] #180272
11/24/09 10:50 PM 11/24/09 10:50 PM
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hijacker!! Just kiding! Thanks for all the emails in the beginning of my build! YOUR CAR IS AWESOME!

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: cudaman1967] #180273
11/25/09 05:27 PM 11/25/09 05:27 PM
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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: Mike Swann] #180274
11/25/09 05:37 PM 11/25/09 05:37 PM
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Extremely cool Cuda! I like the color you have it now.

Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: B1Fish540] #180275
11/30/09 11:00 PM 11/30/09 11:00 PM
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thanks for all the compliments!

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: cudaman1967] #180276
12/05/09 11:08 AM 12/05/09 11:08 AM
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Somehow, I have overlooked this car. (Can't view pics here.) WOW what a neat homebuilt HotRod you got there. Nice and inspirational too.
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: HardcoreB] #180277
12/06/09 11:54 AM 12/06/09 11:54 AM
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I am considering a turbo for my Indy -1 498 motor I have. If I may ask, roughly, how much did it cost you to run the turbo (exclude motor costs)?

Are you happy with blow through? Any intercooler? What gas are you having to use?
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: TheOtherDodge] #180278
12/08/09 01:05 AM 12/08/09 01:05 AM
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the blow through is awesome! Not one issue afr's are perfect! No intercooler I use labonte motorsports water/meth spray.
Excluding motor, trans, fuel etc. Just turbo, piping work, bonnet, flanges, all the fab work for the radiator and turbo mount. About 5-6K. I kept track on everything so let me know if you want to know all

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: cudaman1967] #180279
12/08/09 09:27 AM 12/08/09 09:27 AM
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Thanks! I am realllllly considering turbo the SB that is in it..... Just looking at options, etc.

Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: TheOtherDodge] #180280
12/10/09 04:11 PM 12/10/09 04:11 PM
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Do your research it will pay off! Make sure you follow the basics though. Fuel system is very important and also is data logging. Let me know if you have questions.

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Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: cudaman1967] #180281
12/11/09 10:10 AM 12/11/09 10:10 AM
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How is the driveability with the blow through? I heard that for race, they work great but driveability can be poor.

Who did your carb and did you purchase one or sent yours out? how much?
Re: The turbo Cuda build has begun [Re: TheOtherDodge] #180282
12/11/09 02:09 PM 12/11/09 02:09 PM
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Driveablity is awesome!! I have put 600 miles on it. Drive it almost every weekend. I had CSU do it and the afr's are perfect, great cruising, PERFECT underload. I sent him a 1050 dominator I had. Cost $650 to modify mine. In my mind WELL worth the money. Zero issues!

Cudaman1967 1967 Barracuda Turbo Outlaw 8.50
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