Torsion Bar Size for 73 Charger 1.00 or 1.06?
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Guys, I am thinking about getting a set of the FirmFeel torsion bars for my 1973 Charger. This is a street car that I am looking for better handling. I like a firm ride but not anything to rattle the teeth out of my head. Right now the car has the OEM heavy duty bars .96"? I think. Here is the relevant information: - FirmFeel stage III steering gear - poly bushings all over - poly k-frame mounts - big block car with ~100 lbs of weight reduction on the front end (aluminum heads/radiator/master cylinder/WP/WP housing/Sanden compressor) - KYB shocks (may go Bilsteins later) Would I notice much a difference from the bars I have now with 1.00 or 1.06"? Of the two, what would give me the best handling without knocking my teeth out when I hit a bump? I also have the 7" deep oil pan which every time I go over a hump in the road I worry about whacking it so trying to help that as well. Opinions? Thoughts? Thanks!!
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Re: Torsion Bar Size for 73 Charger 1.00 or 1.06?
[Re: cjskotni]
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03/31/15 11:43 PM
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I run 1" bars on a lot of 72-older B's and E bodies and really like them. Beings that the 73/4 B has a heavier front end I'd think the 1.06 bars would be the ones that I'd use.
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Re: Torsion Bar Size for 73 Charger 1.00 or 1.06?
[Re: cjskotni]
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04/01/15 02:55 AM
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slightly OT; I put some monstrous dia circle track tbars (all I had ex for /6 bars) in a DD 65 dart with 003/003 SS springs & it rode very very nice and firm
Last edited by RapidRobert; 04/01/15 02:58 AM.
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Re: Torsion Bar Size for 73 Charger 1.00 or 1.06?
[Re: Steve Bryant]
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04/05/15 04:45 PM
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On a side note, I just changed my E-Body to a Firm Feel Stage II and its pretty stiff for a driver. I will probably get used to it with a little more time (less than 200 miles since) but a Stage III would be too much for my tastes for sure. Have you driven both?
It may be that I can adjust it but I am trying to get used to it first.
I have the stage III box in my Charger and I love it. I was worried that it would be too stiff but not really an issue..even at low speeds. I am glad I went to the stage III and skipped the stage II myself.
I got my Bilsteins already and put the rear ones on. Car feels a lot nicer already! I am going to wait on the fronts until I get the torsion bars this week so i can just do it all at once. My question is what specs do I need to use (or try to use) for the alignment when I get this stuff swapped in?
I talked to Matt @ FirmFeel and he said 4-4.5* pos caster, 1-1.5* negative camber, and 1/16-1/8 toe-in. Does this sound right to you guys?
I have had this car aligned to factory specs before and I never really liked it. I know the factory specs are out-dated for modern radial tires and upgraded suspension. I want the steering to want to return back to center and get as steady of a feel as possible. What do you guys recommend I tell them to use when they align it?
Thanks!
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Re: Torsion Bar Size for 73 Charger 1.00 or 1.06?
[Re: cjskotni]
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04/06/15 12:50 PM
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talked to Matt @ FirmFeel and he said 4-4.5* pos caster, 1-1.5* negative camber, and 1/16-1/8 toe-in. Does this sound right to you guys?
I have had this car aligned to factory specs before and I never really liked it. I know the factory specs are out-dated for modern radial tires and upgraded suspension. I want the steering to want to return back to center and get as steady of a feel as possible. What do you guys recommend I tell them to use when they align it?
Anybody? I'd like to get this done right and not have to keep bringing it in for alignment after alignment....
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