Re: Hydroboost on "stock-ish" brakes?
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03/05/15 11:56 PM
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I suggest you drive a hydroboost vehicle to see if you like the feel, especially the donor. I do not.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Hydroboost on "stock-ish" brakes?
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03/06/15 12:46 PM
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All fine and good, but considering my original question, this is a fair assessment, and was one of my concerns, frankly. I have 2 diesel pickups. One has a "traditional" vacuum booster, and the other has a hydroboost setup. I've never really been comfortable with the feel of the hydroboost truck.
That said, I agree that this opinion is subjective. However, the vehicle in question will likely be OE calipers up front and and 11x2.5 drums out back...
2 Demons...no, not my kids!
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Re: Hydroboost on "stock-ish" brakes?
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03/06/15 07:49 PM
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I have to say that the hot rod had the best brake feel I've experienced. It used all four corners of a 2005 Mercedes S55 brake system and a 1-1/8" D100 manual master cylinder.
The pedal felt a little firmer than most power assisted systems but softer than the old factory manual brake cars/trucks I've had.
When the pedal moved, the car slowed straight and true. Modulation was easy and drama free.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: Hydroboost on "stock-ish" brakes?
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03/06/15 09:44 PM
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Relax. There are many different scenarios to consider before you condemn something, which is often done on this board.
Poor pedal "feel" is usually a result of a single piston caliper giving an on/off type of feel. As you get into more advanced systems with multiple pistons, the feel becomes excellent. The systems we use are new and are time tested combinations.
I don't have a minimum of a grand to spend on hydroboost to find out. Your preferred setup prices out kinda up there and then I still have to add P/S pump and such. I have a manual steering and manual brake car and I do not have a problem with that. As for the feel getting better with more pistons, how much more is that? $2-3000 to find out?
Real brakes cost real money, its just the way it is. The difference between stock disc/drum and modern brake systems is so dramatic they feel to me they have no brakes compared to my Dart. For instance, I drive a Magnum RT. Good size brakes for a regular car. Compared to the Dart they flat out suck.
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Re: Hydroboost on "stock-ish" brakes?
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03/07/15 12:35 AM
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I'm looking at Tom's Valiant and unless I missed he's running stock A body discs up front and Mustang rear discs out back and killing lots of "modern" iron.
I guess if I ever plan to hit the Silver State Challenge or try to beat my personal banzai run from San Diego to Tucson's time (4.5 hours to cover 400 miles) I don't need much bigger than I have.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Hydroboost on "stock-ish" brakes?
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#1771967
03/07/15 02:09 AM
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It’s always amazed me how we attack each other on Moparts when we don’t agree. I understand Peter to say that if you’re going to road race, you need a brake system to support that specific type of driving. I get that and I’m building as much braking capacity into my Duster that I can afford. I do want to be able to “haul down” from 120Mph+ as quickly as possible.
An autocross cannot be compared to a road course; they are two different animals. Does everyone large need 4-wheel disc brakes and a hydro-boost? No they don’t, pick what works for your style of driving.
1971 6.1 Gen III Hemi Duster
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