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Which manual valve body to look for? #1770195
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Stock 727 behind mild 340 porbably only running 12`s for now, which manual valve body should I look for, money is tight so trying to find used but will buy new if recommended? ANy other easy mods to make?

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770196
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1. Forward pattern or reverse? (I.e., are you trying to keep using an original Slap-Stik shifter, or does it have something else that can work either way?)

2. Low-band apply (probably, based on your description) or not?

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: BradH] #1770197
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aftermarket shifter B & M pro stick so either pattern will work and I would think I want LBA but not sure?

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770198
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Street driven, or track only?

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: BradH] #1770199
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How about making a full list for future reference?

1. Street only, forward pattern

2. Street only, reverse pattern

3. Street/Strip, forward pattern

4. Street/Strip, reverse pattern

5. Strip only, forward pattern, LBA (?)

6. Strip only, reverse pattern, LBA

Should there be 727 and 904 breakdown?
Does HP change VB application?

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: RodStRace] #1770200
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track only.

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770201
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track only.




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Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770202
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You could make your own Rev manual using a good core VB and purchasing an ATI separator plate. Using a mill or drill press with an end mill, you can modify the channel walls and reassemble the kickdown valve and throttle pressure valve in the correct orientation.

www.atiracing.com

P/N 723210, $49.00

Otherwise, the Griner 22G05B is the superior RMVB available. Can also contact John Cope and coperacingtrans.com

727specialist is a dealer for Griner

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770203
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FWIW I drive to the track and race. I use a Turbo Action RMVB. No problems in 4 years.


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Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770204
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call john cope. get one of his. CRT hands down.

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: mopar dave] #1770205
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call john cope. get one of his. CRT hands down.



+1. John da man!


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Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: DusterDave] #1770206
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I have been using Turbo Action RMVB's on the street since 1997 with no problems. But you need to be aware of what you have and drive it correct. Ron

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: RodStRace] #1770207
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How about making a full list for future reference?

1. Street only, forward pattern

2. Street only, reverse pattern

3. Street/Strip, forward pattern

4. Street/Strip, reverse pattern

5. Strip only, forward pattern, LBA (?)

6. Strip only, reverse pattern, LBA




IMO, options #1 & 2 make no sense; 99% of the people use a MVB in either street/strip cars or race cars.

Everybody else can leave it in "D".

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: BradH] #1770208
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When my cuda was an auto I had a reverse pattern manual valve body and it was a full street driven car that was also run on street nights at the track. I modified the gates on the factory Slap stick shifter to work in reverse ,worked great.

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Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770209
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... a full street driven car that was also run on street nights at the track.



That's how I'd describe my Challenger, too; it's a street/strip car... when it's running.

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: DusterW2] #1770210
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Quote:

You could make your own Rev manual using a good core VB and purchasing an ATI separator plate. Using a mill or drill press with an end mill, you can modify the channel walls and reassemble the kickdown valve and throttle pressure valve in the correct orientation.

www.atiracing.com

P/N 723210, $49.00





Is there any literature/books to buy that explain this process? I have stacks of valve bodies and a mill + tons of spare time.

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: CTD5.9] #1770211
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Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: torredcuda] #1770212
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thanks, ordered

Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: CTD5.9] #1770213
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Munroe's book won't show the transfer plate mods needed to build a RMVB. The pic below shows (in red) the channel partition areas that need to be removed. (1/4" cutter)

For those without a milling machine, a thick steel plate with a 1/4" hole drilled in it can be used. Place the hole over the area to be removed, clamp the steel plate to the transfer plate with two C-clamps and drill out the partitions using a 1/4" drill bit...mark the depth on the drill bit to prevent drilling too deep.

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Re: Which manual valve body to look for? [Re: John_Kunkel] #1770214
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On the main valve body, in addition to the kickdown valve mod, the 1-2 shift valve area needs mods and some components need to be tossed. '71-later shown but earlier is similar.

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