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a-body console question #1762247 02/24/15 08:58 PM 02/24/15 08:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 85 New Brunswick Canada C copperSwinger OP member
copperSwinger OP member C Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 85 New Brunswick Canada	besides the trim plate, would an A body automatic console fit a manual car? I am hoping to hear that all the brackets are the in the same spot and that all I need to change is the trim plate on the top and possibly the small carpet flaps on the sides? Thanks I am building a 68 cuda thats currently an automatic but down the road I may want to switch it over to Manual so Im thinking I would weld on the tunnel hump on now while the car is all apart. Making the changeover easier down the road. (swapping a pedal set isnt too hard) just a little Forward thinking

Re: a-body console question [Re: copperSwinger] #1762248 02/25/15 12:01 AM 02/25/15 12:01 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	I put a console in my 74 FrankenDuster. The car was originally a slanty with a column 904. I converted it to a 360 833-8.75. The top plate was cut, a shifter boot was fitted and it looked great. I did have to do some clearancing down at the bottom edge to fit around the shifter hump. I'm not sure what they looked like factory stock, I just did what I needed to make mine fit. 8440071-DSCN0754.JPG (63 downloads)

Re: a-body console question [Re: Kern Dog] #1762249 02/25/15 12:15 AM 02/25/15 12:15 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	The base is different and a simple explanation is it is missing a chunk around the hump, as Frankenduster found out you can cut it out of the way but it's not correct although carpet can be fitted to cover it. Originally a 4 speed console had a fiberglass or poly cover/bulge over the cut out for a cleaner look/more structure under the carpet. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: a-body console question [Re: mopar346] #1762250 02/25/15 12:34 AM 02/25/15 12:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX kentj340 top fuel
kentj340 top fuel Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX	Here's a photo of the driver side bulge (console upside down) for a 4-speed 69 Barracuda. The front brown part seems to be many layers of paper glued together like paper mache. The rear half is just shaped carpet with glue on the back for stiffening. 8440110-21-17Console.carpet13.Lmiddlefoldededge.jpg (77 downloads) If you don't see two dolphins, you need a vacation.

Re: a-body console question [Re: kentj340] #1762251 02/25/15 12:45 AM 02/25/15 12:45 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX kentj340 top fuel
kentj340 top fuel Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX	Here's a close view of the paper layers. Maybe a storm trooper's knee cap or some other semi hemispherical section would work for this. 8440120-21-17Console.carpet12.Lmiddlefiberboardfastener.jpg (83 downloads) If you don't see two dolphins, you need a vacation.

Re: a-body console question [Re: kentj340] #1762252 02/25/15 12:58 AM 02/25/15 12:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX kentj340 top fuel
kentj340 top fuel Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX	Driver side view. The reason for the bulge was the dog leg in the shift lever that goes from the side mount of the trans to the center of the console. Also to clear the second boot that's under the console. Yep, two (2) boots. 8440135-21-17Console.carpet1.Lfront.jpg (61 downloads) If you don't see two dolphins, you need a vacation.

Re: a-body console question [Re: kentj340] #1762253 02/25/15 01:18 AM 02/25/15 01:18 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	Not to derail the thread but I remember a thread about a body 4 speed console bodies being used up after 1969 in automatic consoles? I have an auto console that has the cut out like the 4 speed console body. What was used to cover the hole in that application? Thanks Matt

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762254 02/25/15 01:56 AM 02/25/15 01:56 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	ALL A-body consoles have a small cutout on the driver side. Only four speed consoles had the larger cutout and cardboard thing. It is NOT necessary. My old 66 did not have the larger cutout and it cleared the Inland. Lee (lilcuda) put a Hurst A-body shifter in it and it cleared. It was likely more cosmetic to cover more of the flat part of the hump.

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762255 02/25/15 12:13 PM 02/25/15 12:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,539 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,539 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Quote: Not to derail the thread but I remember a thread about a body 4 speed console bodies being used up after 1969 in automatic consoles? I have an auto console that has the cut out like the 4 speed console body. What was used to cover the hole in that application? Thanks Matt Just another console note. There was no 4-speed console after 1969 and the 69 console top plate was unique as well as the console door. In 69 it had a woodgrain top, and from 66-69 it sprung down instead of having a button and springing-up from 70-76. The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: a-body console question [Re: Rhinodart] #1762256 02/25/15 08:12 PM 02/25/15 08:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX kentj340 top fuel
kentj340 top fuel Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,653 Cut and Shoot, TX	Quote: from 66-69 it sprung down Exactly, and a big PITA. Besides that, NO CUP HOLDERS! What were they thinking? If you don't see two dolphins, you need a vacation.

Re: a-body console question [Re: kentj340] #1762257 02/25/15 09:46 PM 02/25/15 09:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,539 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,539 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	More than a pain in the ass, have you ever had your hand in there while driving and hit a bump! The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: a-body console question [Re: Rhinodart] #1762258 02/26/15 01:02 AM 02/26/15 01:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	Here is a picture of the console I have. Not saying that it came that way , but I had a friend had it in a 70 duster 20-25 years ago and it was this way until he changed over to a 4 speed and took it out. You can also see the end was cut I believe for an A/C car. I think factory did that as well. Matt 8441152-IMG_6766.JPG (56 downloads)

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762259 02/26/15 01:03 AM 02/26/15 01:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	another of the console you can see where something was screwed on to cover the hole up. Matt 8441153-IMG_6767.JPG (61 downloads)

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762260 02/26/15 01:04 AM 02/26/15 01:04 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	3. the front 8441154-IMG_6768.JPG (64 downloads)

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762261 02/26/15 01:05 AM 02/26/15 01:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	another shot. Matt 8441157-IMG_6769.JPG (62 downloads)

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762262 02/26/15 01:07 AM 02/26/15 01:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	Quote: Here is a picture of the console I have. Not saying that it came that way , but I had a friend had it in a 70 duster 20-25 years ago and it was this way until he changed over to a 4 speed and took it out. You can also see the end was cut I believe for an A/C car. I think factory did that as well. Matt Judging from the welds on the shifter bracket that doesn't appear to be a factory floor shift car so there was some donors involved at one point. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: a-body console question [Re: mopar346] #1762263 02/26/15 01:15 AM 02/26/15 01:15 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	Quote: Quote: Here is a picture of the console I have. Not saying that it came that way , but I had a friend had it in a 70 duster 20-25 years ago and it was this way until he changed over to a 4 speed and took it out. You can also see the end was cut I believe for an A/C car. I think factory did that as well. Matt Judging from the welds on the shifter bracket that doesn't appear to be a factory floor shift car so there was some donors involved at one point. The car is an original console auto 72 340 duster. However the console and brackets were removed when it went racing for a while prior to me purchasing the car. I only have the brackets tacked in the car to get an idea of where it goes. You are correct in saying the brackets were removed from another car. The console also came from another car and if you would have read my post you would have saw that I said I got it I.E. the console from a friend whom had it in his 70 duster for 20-25 years before he changed everything out to a 4 speed. Matt

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762264 02/26/15 01:21 AM 02/26/15 01:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,539 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,539 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Interesting console, I have seen quite a few with the cut front from the factory, usually on 73-76 A-Body's. It looks as if it was a factory 4-speed console at one time though. 8441186-101_1717.JPG (41 downloads) The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: a-body console question [Re: mattsmopars] #1762265 02/26/15 01:29 AM 02/26/15 01:29 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	[quoteif you would have read my post you would have saw that I said I got it I.E. the console from a friend whom had it in his 70 duster for 20-25 years before he changed everything out to a 4 speed. Matt I got that part, my error was that I thought that was a picture of it in HIS car before it was removeed, not yours. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: a-body console question [Re: Rhinodart] #1762266 02/26/15 01:29 AM 02/26/15 01:29 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa mattsmopars master
mattsmopars master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,136 tennessee,usa	Quote: Interesting console, I have seen quite a few with the cut front from the factory, usually on 73-76 A-Body's. It looks as if it was a factory 4-speed console at one time though. That may very well be the case. I really have no idea as a lot of stuff happens over 40+ years of time. I was just thinking there was an old thread that talked about Chrysler using up the old stock of 4 speed console bodies in automatic applications after 69 when there no longer 4 speed console cars. That my just be my weak mind though. If I had any faith in someone seeing one it would be you Rhino. Matt

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