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street/Strip oil pan #1760042
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Looking for some input. Need a decent pan for my 400. The engine has a 4.25 stroke crank. Wont run faster than 11.0-11.50.
Its going in a 67 Belvedere II. I do want a pan w/dipstick provisions and an internal pick up.
I have narrowed it down to a Canton Racing pan part #15-950 or Milodon #30930. Just cant find any info whether the Canton pan will have an issue w/the stroke length(Summits site says stock stroke) and for the Milodon (Summit shows it has no dipstick provision). Which after looking at images appears incorrect. Which pans have you guys had good luck in a 66/67 B-body. As I have said not locked into any one pan yet. Just want one that wont leak and will work with my set up.

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Not sure on the stroke but if you have any concerns about ground clearance look at the Milodon Road Race pan. I am on pan #3 which is the road race pan, I believe it will finally fix the problem of having to treat the oil pan as a consumable that the deep pans had.


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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: cudatom] #1760044
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I like and use the OEM type 1970/71 ST.Hemi and 440 6 pak 6 quart oil pan with the 3/8 6 pak oil pickup in any motor like that, as well as more HP and in faster cars, that I build for a 1966 to 1971 B and E body My 518 C.I. pump gas Duster ran 9.993 at 134.+ MPH on Oregon 91 octane non ethanol pump swill with the air cleaner and full exhaust on, no oiling problems at all as long as the oil level is above the add mark That motor made 727 HP on a DTS engien dyno in Klamath Falls ,OR at 4300 on pump swill with a set of Indy SR M.W. ports and a single Holley 1050 Doimnator carb. Keep it simple as long as it works well I do make my own crankshaft scrapers and the stock Mopar windage tray I make sure the oil pickup is within 1/8 from touching or partially touching the bottom of the oil pan also I'm bulding a pump gas 1966 Dodge Coronet Deluxe two door sedan right now that will have a 464 C.I. pump gas 440 RB motor in it with that exact same set up except the shorter 3.91 stroke


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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: cudatom] #1760045
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Looking for some input. Need a decent pan for my 400. The engine has a 4.25 stroke crank. Wont run faster than 11.0-11.50.
Its going in a 67 Belvedere II. I do want a pan w/dipstick provisions and an internal pick up.
I have narrowed it down to a Canton Racing pan part #15-950 or Milodon #30930. Just cant find any info whether the Canton pan will have an issue w/the stroke length(Summits site says stock stroke) and for the Milodon (Summit shows it has no dipstick provision). Which after looking at images appears incorrect. Which pans have you guys had good luck in a 66/67 B-body. As I have said not locked into any one pan yet. Just want one that wont leak and will work with my set up.

Thanks




I went with the Milodon road race pan after seeing just how low the moroso 7qt pan hung down on my R/B engine.

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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: The Cuda Guy] #1760046
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I have been using the Moroso 7 qt pan since 2006 and it has never hit anything as it has good road clearance in my 63. Ron


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Ron, your car is beautiful and you are careful with it. The way I drive mine, sometimes spirited on real mid west roads, I would have been through several pans and maybe engines by now.

I run the 6 quart "hemi" pan with a skid plate on the K frame. Is a low deck with 4.15 stroke and windage tray. The stock dipstick (mounted in the block, not pan) works fine. The Hemi pan is about 1" deeper than stock and hangs a little below the K. The skid plate has saved it more than once. I think it would be a good choice for the OP or the road race pan which is more spendy.

Anything deeper than the OE 4 quart is best used with a matched skid plate IMO.

PS. My skid plate really earned its keep last fall. Driving to a track day at around 5:30 AM on a cold rainy sleety morning I "ate" a full tread of a super single truck tire. Standing tall like a big doughnut. Front valence, lower rad support, radiator, fan/clutch all toast. The skid plate pushed the tire under the pan and it was fine save for some rubber stains.

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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: ahy] #1760048
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I run a 440-source pan. It hangs low, but its never been an issue because I usually watch where I'm going and I'm fairly careful with my car. It's got a couple of dings here & there, I have assumed from rocks bouncing along the roadway, but never have I had an issue with destroying it.

If you drive it like you stole it, you may want to go to a road-race style pan.

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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: StealthWedge67] #1760049
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I run a 440-source pan. It hangs low, but its never been an issue because I usually watch where I'm going and I'm fairly careful with my car. It's got a couple of dings here & there, I have assumed from rocks bouncing along the roadway, but never have I had an issue with destroying it.

If you drive it like you stole it, you may want to go to a road-race style pan.




me too, I have considered going to the six quart but not sure I feel like changing a pan in the car.

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I run a 440-source pan. It hangs low, but its never been an issue because I usually watch where I'm going and I'm fairly careful with my car. It's got a couple of dings here & there, I have assumed from rocks bouncing along the roadway, but never have I had an issue with destroying it.

If you drive it like you stole it, you may want to go to a road-race style pan.




me too, I have considered going to the six quart but not sure I feel like changing a pan in the car.




I like the fact that I can load 7 quarts plus an additive, and the dipstick reads right at the bottom "add" mark. Lots of oil, and away from the tray.


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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: Cab_Burge] #1760051
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Thanks for the info Cab. I saw that pan. Just wasn't sure how it would fit on a 67. Mancini had a hemi pan for the earlier body styles but it was similarly priced to the 2 pans I mentioned. I do like keeping things simple.
Now that I know someone that has 1st hand knowledge of fitment I may go that direction. Pan and pick up is $169 so that would free up money for other small parts that always creep up on us. This is the car. If I can dig my trailer out of the snow I can pick it up from the body shop Saturday. [image]http://[/image]
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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: 383man] #1760052
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I have been using the Moroso 7 qt pan since 2006 and it has never hit anything as it has good road clearance in my 63. Ron





Love your car 383man. My dad raced one in stock class in Ohio at Magnolia drag strip in the early to mid 60's.


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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: cudatom] #1760053
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Cool Car!

The pan fits my 67.

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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: Cab_Burge] #1760055
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Wow ... that looks great.
What hood scoop are you going to use?


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I have the 30930 in my '67. Its a nice pan and fits well. I actually got it in the car with the scatter shield on the back of the engine, that made it a pain the in the you know what though.

It is not that low profile though, sticks down almost as much as some of the cheap deep sump big pans. Although every bit counts. I'd say it hangs around 2 inches below the K frame.

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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: David_in_St_Croi] #1760057
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the problem of having to treat the oil pan as a consumable that the deep pans had.




Every time I get under my car...the pan has a new dent in it. Ive dented 3 pans so far. One of them starting leaking at a spot weld after I hit something. My dented pans have nothing to do with driving style....

My car sits lower in the front that most on here, to get as much travel as possible..and my torsion bars wont hold the fat thing up any higher...

The road race pan looks pimp. 2 more inches of ground clearance is a must for me...


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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: Von] #1760058
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another for the Milodon road race pan .
since fitting never even close to hitting anything
sits right at the k-member height , minimal below
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I agree, the road race pan is the best setup for a street car. But it is expensive and the extra size does make it more difficult pulling/installing the engine unless you cut out the K frame. We cut the K frame on my B-body car so now it is much easier to get a big pan in and out.

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Yeah the road race pan is nice. Unfortunately it is way out of my budget. Too many little items needed to finish the car.
With the curbs and roads around here if the other pans I listed sit 2" below the k frame I'll need to keep several on hand. After talking w/Cab I will probably buy the Summit Racing version of the 70-71 hemi pan.
Dennis this is the scoop that is going on the car.
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Re: street/Strip oil pan [Re: cudatom] #1760061
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/ Really looks good Tom.


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