Hey All,

Is anyone else here putting the new crate Hemi into an A-Body? There is one 67 FB in La. that did it with a pull-out but he used a tube kframe. I'm using TTI headers and mounts and will need to block off the oil filter adapter and run a remote filter out the side of the block. I'm wondering if there are other issues I haven't come up against yet. I have a Charlie's mid-sump pan from www.hotrodlane.cc. As far as I know there are at least 4 other sets of TTI headers out there and I'm really hoping one of them is here in moparts.

-Daty

I've been thinking this would be cool for the 68 B-cuda vert we just picked up. I'd like to know what all is involved. I'm sure the engine fits fine (except for some fab work, not a big deal), but what about a 5 speed auto? how well does that fit? While I'm rambling, does anyone have some dimentions of an a-body engine/trans compartment?

Daty,
You may want to try contacting Canton-Mecca filters and see if they don't have something off-the-shelf that will work for you. Do you have any photos that show where the interference will be? Is it something that a shorter filter would fix, or does it have to be a relocate? IMHO, a relocate isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's a good excuse to install a accusump (for me, but I don't think you'll be autoXing much). Be sure to check out some of their remote filter adapters, some of which are really slick, and would go well with the theme you've got going on...

That is, if you can call "Old Man Tan" and "fuel injected Hemi" a theme...

Clair

I've been talking with Michael Mosley, we're going to make a plate to block off the filter. The TTI piece doesn't have provisions for the oring seals that are on the adapter (the block is smooth) so sealing it with Silicone or a normal gasket will be temporary at best and lose the motor at worst. I'm sending the oring specs to Michael this weekend so he can spec oring grooves on the block-off plate. There are two plugs on the side of the motor to pull the remote filter from. The reason for the plate is the TTI mounts (required for their headers) is the adapter and the filter mount occupy the same spot.

As far as the 5 speed it will not fit without major surgery to the tranny tunnel (those things are HUGE), they are even bigger than an A500 or 518. A 904 or 727 will bolt on but you need to take the ring gear off the Hemi flexplate and use the one on the tc. Keisler has a 5 speed kit for this motor for the manual tranny option, a std 4 speed will also work but you probably need to use the new Hemi flywheel, not sure. With the TTI headers a small starter is used. http://www.ttiexhaust.com/Header%20-%205.7%20Hemi/5.7Hemi.htm
has all the TTI info that is out there. With the stock kframe you need a Charlie's mid-sump pan available at www.hotrodlane.cc , that is a good site to see what's involved with a junkyard Hemi. The crate Hemi has a plug and play harness with computors and everything else needed. If you go the crate route then you need to decide on carb or MPI. I went the MPI route but that means switching the fuel system from carb to EFI (sumped baffled tank or fuel cell and high pressure lines/pump/filter).

Tommorrow or Sunday I'll be test fitting the headers, mounts, and kframe. I also need to swing by the dealer and talk with Chris the tranny guy to see what my 727 needs for the rebuild.

The project in itself is coming along real nice, what I'm trying to do is get it all scienced out so the vert downtime is minimized (yea right).

I don't have body dimensions but to help hotrodlane does have engine measurements.

-Daty

I'll be the old man that cleans the clock of them youn'ens in the rice eatin' mobile billboards. d8^)

-Daty

Hmmmm... too bad that TTI can't find some trained monkey to knock out a few dozen of those block off plates. They don't look terribly sophisticated, judging by the photo on thier web site...

I'm going to be in your neighborhood tomorrow, if all goes well today. I've got to go up to Allen to pick up a few more Fury parts, but I'm not sure I'll be able to stop by. I may try to check Mapquest for the relative distance from your place to where I'm heading, and if Monkey Boy cooperates, I may try to stop in. Yep, probably bringing the 6-week old on a parts run. Gotta start them off right!

Clair

Well around 1pm I got to pick up Lyle from Scouts, other than that I'll be here all day. If you lost my addy it's 1501 Creekside. It'll be great to see you and monkeyboy! If early afternoon dosn't work I'm sure DD can pick him up.

Now I'm off to the garage to test fit some stuff...

-Daty

Sounds like a cool build post some pics as you go please

keep your progress posted. was looking at the same install, but with the debut of the 6.1 looking at that with the manual trans.
could a turbo fit in their too.

I was diggin' on the same gig in a '68 B body but I'm sure by the time I get the scratch together to build it they'll be as common as the word "bling" in a Hot Rod article.

how is this going? Any detail pics yet?

Its coming, the heads, block and front junk assembly ARE now Hemi Orange, alt and compressor mounted, belts figured out, headers in place, kframe in place, clearance checked/everified. if I had black cast instead of chrome vcs I's probabtly swap over, oil pan black..Gotta do thinga like belts, hoses, existing sensors, some wiring changes (no MP electronic ign), ammeter bypass, realays wiring for headlights, fans, head blower upper, sissiy hemi wiring layout, electical support for the fuel system (working with Don at FBO on on this, anyone that can bend Dons ear in my favor I would so greatly appreciate I'll send Luna tomatillo sauce straight to you, a treat to die for. I'm looking at a rather large complete system by the time were done, I like complete systems A LOT!

Science out the air cleaner that looks old school modern, any ideas here?

The slanty let go so its time to depart its home, being evicted in the middle of the night.

I'm sure there is more, and yes it does exist, Clair has touched it (unless it was my imagination)

-Daty

out of crate images

ANOTHER

This might help, the vert it's going into, Ive had it since 92 and a lot has been done to get it ready for this point in its life.

So am I certifiable or just this side of wylie?

-Daty

www.hotrodlane.cc has the engine/tranny measurements, my guess is the tranny is way too fat to fit without some fairly major floorpan/bracing rework. After I'm up an running next winter I'm looking into a GV unit, lot less surgery and lower overall costs.

-Daty

I loves me some new stuff! And yes, I did touch the Hemi, but I was careful to wipe off any drool/finger prints. Any news from Sam yet? And did you get my email RE: the fuel fitting adapter?

Clair

Not this week, he was cutting orings in the plate (after I sent him the adapter I pulled off the sissy hemi he decided orings were necessary), after it goes thru plating it's coming my way. The header clearance issue was from the headers hitting the mount bolt pushing them out (suprised neither one of us caught that), some grinder action and no washer cleaned that right up, I may still have to dimple a bit, we'll see when I get my tranny back and dummy everything in. I did get your email, thanks!

Now to call Don and talk fuel delivery.

-Daty

Hello.. A friend told me about the 5.7 Hemi posts on here. Thought I'd jump in.
I have a 1969 Dart GT (original /6 car, currently has a 360) that I will be putting a 5.7 Hemi (EFI) into. I got an engine from salvage (2004 RAM truck). It has about 1000 miles on the engine.
Tuesday (Oct 4) the engine mounts and headers arrived from MoparMecca (TTI distributor).
In the next week or two I will start pulling the 360 out. The engine compartment will be painted Silver before the Hemi goes in. The car will become a resto-mod Dart GTS, silver w/red interior, red Bumble Stripe. It will also have a custom dash from RockyMountainDash.
I'm still waiting on engine parts from Direct Connection (Mopar Performance).
They have a kit (part# 5153339) which is supposed to have all of the performance goodies they put on the 5.7 Hemi crate engine (the 4bbl-style throttle-body, intake manifold, computer, wiring harness, etc..). The kit is not available yet. Only a part# exists. It is almost $4800.
I still need info on what/how concerning a fuel tank/fuel system.
Once my engine is dressed out it will look like sort-of like a carb engine (it will be EFI though). THe engine has been painted Hemi Orange. I had the valve covers powder-coated with wrinkle-black. I want to use an original-style 426 Hemi Chrome Air Cleaner on it; which I think I can do with the 4bbl-style throttle-body.

Anybody have any updated 5.7 Hemi news?

Thanks,
57HemiDart
(Bob)