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six pack kill bleeds #1723523 01/06/15 10:48 PM 01/06/15 10:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut 5126brl No more OP top fuel
5126brl No more OP top fuel Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut	Have been reading many of the post on six packs and read about reducing kill bleed size to start opening the outers quicker. Would blocking off one of the carbs kill bleed give the same effect? Say the front carb only and since they have a T fitting inline hose would give signal to other? Would it almost be a progressive transition? Or it could just be this Zero degree weather frosting my Brain Last edited by 4406brl; 01/06/15 10:51 PM.

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 5126brl No more] #1723524 01/06/15 10:56 PM 01/06/15 10:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,037 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,037 Benton, IL.	I have never tried that. But I have worked on several that would open late or erratically because the bleeds were clogged. Are we to assume that you have tried the spring kits and they still don't open quick enough even with the lightest springs? And that you have made sure that the other usual culprits are not a problem? Master, again and still

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 5126brl No more] #1723525 01/06/15 11:58 PM 01/06/15 11:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,831 N.E. Ohio 6bblFLASH master
6bblFLASH master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,831 N.E. Ohio	Quote: Have been reading many of the post on six packs and read about reducing kill bleed size to start opening the outers quicker. Would blocking off one of the carbs kill bleed give the same effect? Say the front carb only and since they have a T fitting inline hose would give signal to other? Would it almost be a progressive transition? Or it could just be this Zero degree weather frosting my Brain Yes,but it will probably be too fast. However it would a harmless experiment. I`ve done the adjustable "kill-bleed" modification. You will be suprised how sensitive it really is. Almost as touchy as the IFR`s and AFR`s. 70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas 9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ! 2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1723526 01/07/15 09:54 AM 01/07/15 09:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,831 N.E. Ohio 6bblFLASH master
6bblFLASH master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,831 N.E. Ohio	Something I always thought would work that I wanted to try is......... a small barrel valve or even a little needle valve in line on the vacuum hoses. Would make the bleeds totally tunable with the turn of a knob. You would just need to make them all a little oversized then adjust down. 70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas 9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ! 2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1723527 01/07/15 12:47 PM 01/07/15 12:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio J jlatessa pro stock
jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio	Wow flash...great idea, and a heck of a lot easier than spring fiddling. I'm going to figure something out and try it when summer comes around here...Thanks, Joe PS Where're you at in NE OH, I'm in Kirtland Last edited by jlatessa; 01/07/15 12:51 PM.

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: jlatessa] #1723528 01/07/15 01:47 PM 01/07/15 01:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,831 N.E. Ohio 6bblFLASH master
6bblFLASH master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,831 N.E. Ohio	Quote: Wow flash...great idea, and a heck of a lot easier than spring fiddling. I'm going to figure something out and try it when summer comes around here...Thanks, Joe PS Where're you at in NE OH, I'm in Kirtland No problem. .. hope it works. I'm near Canton off Rt 30 70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas 9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ! 2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1723529 01/07/15 09:35 PM 01/07/15 09:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut 5126brl No more OP top fuel
5126brl No more OP top fuel Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,946 Connecticut	Well covered one kill bleed with tape and when small vacuum applied carb with tape over kill bleed started opening about 25% before other carb started to open... This was done on the bench but will be a test I will do after intake back on Last edited by 4406brl; 01/07/15 09:36 PM.

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 5126brl No more] #1723530 01/08/15 07:41 AM 01/08/15 07:41 AM
Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 5,183 P Porter67 master
Porter67 master P Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 5,183	A small adjustable valve on the vac line would work, no different then a adjustable fish tank valve we used to put on our vac. waste gate on our grand nationals turbo chargers. But really there are more correct ways to get where you want to be.

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: Porter67] #1723531 01/08/15 08:49 AM 01/08/15 08:49 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,629 pa 572charger top fuel
572charger top fuel Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,629 pa	i used to tape them off at the track way back in the 80s but i had 4.56 gear and a 3800 turbo action convertor on a trw 440 30 over and 590 cam stock 6 pac set up ran 11.30s they would open on the hit i did it on the street once and inialated the tires !!!!! 606 hemi pump gas best 9.60 at 142mph on motor 05 hemi daytona 1500 go-mango 4wd quadcab 2007 hotrod mag pump gas drags runner up, roadkill nights dodge big tire winner 2018 2019 back to back

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: 572charger] #1723532 01/08/15 01:27 PM 01/08/15 01:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio J jlatessa pro stock
jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio	Wait a minute, let's rethink this, if we're trying to slow the bleed-off of vacuum, to make the secondaries open quicker, aren't we working on the wrong side of the diaphragms by putting a restriction in the vacuum lines from the center carb???? We need to have the restriction in the channel from the vacuum pods to the secondaries' orifice to the venturis.... Or am I crossed up?? Joe

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: jlatessa] #1723533 01/08/15 01:31 PM 01/08/15 01:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Wait a minute, let's rethink this, if we're trying to slow the bleed-off of vacuum, to make the secondaries open quicker, aren't we working on the wrong side of the diaphragms by putting a restriction in the vacuum lines from the center carb???? We need to have the restriction in the channel from the vacuum pods to the secondaries' orifice to the venturis.... Or am I crossed up?? Joe 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: six pack kill bleeds [Re: jlatessa] #1723534 01/08/15 10:43 PM 01/08/15 10:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 529 Marilla, New York R RalleyA12 mopar
RalleyA12 mopar R Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 529 Marilla, New York	You need to make the kill bleed restriction in the carb body smaller and then you tee your adjustable bleeder valve into the rubber line. Better yet, plug the kill bleeds and instead of an adjustable valve use carb jets so you can accurately control the size of the opening and thus can go back to a prior setting.

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