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Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? #1723191
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Just for fun - the small block rod thread got me thinking. I have a 400 shortblock with a bent connecting rod, it is bent slightly in the non thrust direction.

I also have a friend with a 67 HP 440 sitting on his garage floor that he grenaded around 74, it has a couple of broken LY rods and a few that actually bent about 90 degrees and did not break. The engine is so screwed up that you can't get it apart. He shifted it around 6500-6800. Obviously he broke it with excessive RPM. And it had heavy TRW 6 pack slugs in it.

What stories do you guys have?


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: GTX MATT] #1723192
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I don't think ANYBODY has ever broken a six-pack rod.


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: CHAPPER] #1723193
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I don't think ANYBODY has ever broken a six-pack rod.




Not the rod but on my 1st and only set of 6 pack heavy A$$ rods a rod bolt broke about the same as breaking a rod @ 6200 RPM just as I was about to shift !And still today wonder what the Hell I was thinking putting a set of Heavy Ass set of rods in a engine!


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1723194
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I don't think ANYBODY has ever broken a six-pack rod.




Not the rod but on my 1st and only set of 6 pack heavy A$$ rods a rod bolt broke about the same as breaking a rod @ 6200 RPM just as I was about to shift !And still today wonder what the Hell I was thinking putting a set of Heavy Ass set of rods in a engine!





The 6pk used to be the way to go. Hardly anybody uses them anymore. I had several sets here that I ended up giving to a junker that comes around. See them on Ebay for sale, but nobody bids/buys. Only a diehard restorer would want them I guess.


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: CHAPPER] #1723195
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i don't think very many racers run the heavy things, why would they?

Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: GTX MATT] #1723196
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I used to keep a bag on my desk at work with a bunch of LY rod pieces from when I grenaded it at the 1000-ft. mark years ago. You could make a jig-saw puzzle with them.

Like another poster mentioned, the break probably started with a bolt, but by the time it was all said and done, it was a whole bunch of pieces, plus a broken camshaft, plus an effed-up block & crank, etc.

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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: Twostick] #1723200
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Yes I have. Ly. Will I again? No after market rods are too cheep and blue printed short blocks are too expensive.


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This one is my favorite. Broke at the stripe. Couldn't even get the cam out of the block. I loved that motor....

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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: GTX MATT] #1723202
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Never broke a LY rod,but had one that a bolt snapped in...engine had 27 runs on it. New engine has a brand new set of LY's with ARP bolts and 6 pak slugs,but it will never go over 6000 rpm.


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: Chris2581] #1723203
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I put a lot of of high 9, low 10 second passes on stock 440 rods with upgraded rods bolts,and polished and shot blasted beams. Some broke, some didn't. Would I do it again with whats available now? HECK NO. Another thing to remember was that back then most of us were running stock cranks and HEAVY TRW or Sealed Power pistons.


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1723204
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I broke some, but I couldn't say it was the rod's fault.

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Yep. Broke it in the water. Kept running till I got it on the trailer.

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I put a lot of of high 9, low 10 second passes on stock 440 rods with upgraded rods bolts,and polished and shot blasted beams. Some broke, some didn't. Would I do it again with whats available now? HECK NO. Another thing to remember was that back then most of us were running stock cranks and HEAVY TRW or Sealed Power pistons.




Would you be talking about the L2295 heavy weight pistons?

I run them with a CD 286-750 roller camshaft.

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I vaporized one on a 12-1 motor with a 613 Ultradyne and ported 906s. All that was left was a small piece around the crank, and a piece at the top with the pin. The rest was dust. A piece went thru one of the freeze plugs and it started leaking water. Drove it on the trailer. Birdtracker

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I put a lot of of high 9, low 10 second passes on stock 440 rods with upgraded rods bolts,and polished and shot blasted beams. Some broke, some didn't. Would I do it again with whats available now? HECK NO. Another thing to remember was that back then most of us were running stock cranks and HEAVY TRW or Sealed Power pistons.




Would you be talking about the L2295 heavy weight pistons?

I run them with a CD 286-750 roller camshaft.







Oh ya those same pistons and I still have probably 3 of the old 286 duration 750 lift cams on my shelf. They were GREAT cams back then and made some nice power with the old garage ported 906 heads. LOL. I finally sold off all my old TRW, Sealed Power pistons last Summer.


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Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: pittsburghracer] #1723209
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I broke a couple. Used to break the bolts I think but it was sometimes hard to tell what happened first, started cutting 100 grams out of those old forged pistons and that helped a lot. No need to run that junk these days.

Sheldon

Re: Anyone broke an LY or 6 pack rod? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1723210
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Never broke one!! I bent one once though. It bent almost a 180 degrees at the piston pin end but yet, it still didn't break!. Tough little suckers they were, those LY,s. In most cases IMO, either the rod bolts broke first or the bearings spun causing the rod bolts to snap. Then all else happened afterwards.

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