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electrical question Older Ramcharger #1721010 01/03/15 10:19 PM 01/03/15 10:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 OP I Live Here
Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	With the headlights on, left turn indicator stays on , turn left blinker on, it flashes normally, put slight pressure on it without actually turning the turn signal on it will go out. I dont have another turn signal switch to try, but would you guys think thats the issue, or could I have a diferent issue?? Thanks guys

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721011 01/03/15 11:02 PM 01/03/15 11:02 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: With the headlights on, left turn indicator stays on , turn left blinker on, it flashes normally, put slight pressure on it without actually turning the turn signal on it will go out. headlights on/stalk in nuetral= left turn indicator stays on. Move stalk down (headlights still on)= TS indicator flashes normally. Correct so far?. Clarify the "slight pressure", is that moving the stalk from down to slightly up from that down position but not enough to "snap" into neutral? live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: RapidRobert] #1721012 01/03/15 11:12 PM 01/03/15 11:12 PM
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stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,930 Grand Prairie,Texas	Try tightening up the dash screws. It sounds more like a ground issue than a switch problem.

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: RapidRobert] #1721013 01/03/15 11:26 PM 01/03/15 11:26 PM
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Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Quote: Quote: With the headlights on, left turn indicator stays on , turn left blinker on, it flashes normally, put slight pressure on it without actually turning the turn signal on it will go out. headlights on/stalk in nuetral= left turn indicator stays on. Move stalk down (headlights still on)= TS indicator flashes normally. Correct so far?. Clarify the "slight pressure", is that moving the stalk from down to slightly up from that down position but not enough to "snap" into neutral? Well, close, Headlights on, dash indicator for left turn stays on, put slight pressure on stalk to the down position and the green indicator goes out. The tail lights never show a left turn on until i actually turn them on. Right side is ok, only does this on the left indicator. What, grounds? where are they located? I had this truck from a total empty shell to a "new" truck and this is the only issue electrically Thanks I have several body to chassis grounds I mad of 10 gauge wire, have several engine to chassis grounds also, those, 2 of them are 4 gauge. Kasey

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721014 01/03/15 11:29 PM 01/03/15 11:29 PM
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stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,930 Grand Prairie,Texas	The instrument cluster grounds through the screws that hold it to the dash. If they get loose then you can end up with weird dash light problems because they feed back through circuits they shouldn't.

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: stumpy] #1721015 01/03/15 11:32 PM 01/03/15 11:32 PM
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Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Quote: The instrument cluster grounds through the screws that hold it to the dash. If they get loose then you can end up with weird dash light problems because they feed back through circuits they shouldn't. Great!! So could I fix that issue with a small ground wire from chassis to the cluster housing? Kasey

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721016 01/03/15 11:36 PM 01/03/15 11:36 PM
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stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,930 Grand Prairie,Texas	I would start by tightening the screws. The system has been working for years without an extra ground wire needed. Another possibility could be the turn signal bulb, front or rear, being shorted or a corroded socket. This also can cause a feedback. Just because the lights work doesn't mean there can't be a problem with them.

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: stumpy] #1721017 01/03/15 11:42 PM 01/03/15 11:42 PM
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Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Thanks Stumpy

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721018 01/04/15 12:13 AM 01/04/15 12:13 AM
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therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio	The 5 or 6 I had all had ground problesm with the rear lights.They were almosy always the cause of ground problems.the housings need a good ground.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721019 01/04/15 12:13 AM 01/04/15 12:13 AM
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stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,930 Grand Prairie,Texas	I figured I'd let you have a try at the easy stuff before you dug into the column.

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: stumpy] #1721020 01/04/15 12:21 AM 01/04/15 12:21 AM
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Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Quote: I figured I'd let you have a try at the easy stuff before you dug into the column. I just rebuilt the column in a 70 Charger R/T yesterday, Turn signal switch, and upper bearing. I dont mind them, I am not a fan of say a 06 and newer charger they really suck!

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721021 01/04/15 01:01 AM 01/04/15 01:01 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	If the turn signal ind is on with the headlites on its usually feedback from a bad ground for the park lite bulb so it finds a ground back through the turn signal element of the bulb back up the turnsignal circuit to the dash ind which is on the front turn signal circuit. Since the park lite and turn signal bulb touch together in the bulb and share the same ground its almost always a bad ground from the front bulb or socket. Ron

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: 383man] #1721022 01/04/15 03:14 AM 01/04/15 03:14 AM
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Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Quote: If the turn signal ind is on with the headlites on its usually feedback from a bad ground for the park lite bulb so it finds a ground back through the turn signal element of the bulb back up the turnsignal circuit to the dash ind which is on the front turn signal circuit. Since the park lite and turn signal bulb touch together in the bulb and share the same ground its almost always a bad ground from the front bulb or socket. Ron Thanks This is GREAT info!

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721023 01/04/15 01:46 PM 01/04/15 01:46 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	I would pull the front/rear 1157 dual filament bulb drivers side metal sockets out of their housings & with (2) jumper wires with alligator clips on each end ground both of em to a nearby known good ground & see if that clears it up (& see if only the top (thin/less bright) filament lights up with the running lights on) & if so then plug em back one at a time to find which one lost it's ground. If no go there (they're OK) plug em back in & I would seperate the dangling under the column brake/ts harness & check continuities with (1) the stalk in neutral/lights off (2) stalk in neutral/lights on (3) stalk slightly down as you described/lights off (4) stalk slightly down/lights on & see what you get & make a note of the colors/yes or no continuity/what position. What year Ramcharger? Do you have a shop manual for it? live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: RapidRobert] #1721024 01/04/15 11:35 PM 01/04/15 11:35 PM
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skajm enthusiast S Joined: May 2005 Posts: 222 morrisville, pa	Check the ground from wiring harness to radiator support to battery.

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: RapidRobert] #1721025 01/05/15 03:03 AM 01/05/15 03:03 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: I would pull the front/rear 1157 dual filament bulb drivers side metal sockets out of their housings & with (2) jumper wires with alligator clips on each end ground both of em to a nearby known good ground & see if that clears it up (& see if only the top (thin/less bright) filament lights up with the running lights on) & if so then plug em back one at a time to find which one lost it's ground. If no go there (they're OK) plug em back in & I would seperate the dangling under the column brake/ts harness & check continuities with (1) the stalk in neutral/lights off (2) stalk in neutral/lights on (3) stalk slightly down as you described/lights off (4) stalk slightly down/lights on & see what you get & make a note of the colors/yes or no continuity/what position. What year Ramcharger? Do you have a shop manual for it? Robert I tried to send you a PM but it said it is full and it wont send. Ron

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: RapidRobert] #1721026 01/05/15 01:53 PM 01/05/15 01:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again Moparnut426 OP I Live Here
Moparnut426 OP I Live Here Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 12,008 Finally a HUSKER again	Quote: I would pull the front/rear 1157 dual filament bulb drivers side metal sockets out of their housings & with (2) jumper wires with alligator clips on each end ground both of em to a nearby known good ground & see if that clears it up (& see if only the top (thin/less bright) filament lights up with the running lights on) & if so then plug em back one at a time to find which one lost it's ground. If no go there (they're OK) plug em back in & I would seperate the dangling under the column brake/ts harness & check continuities with (1) the stalk in neutral/lights off (2) stalk in neutral/lights on (3) stalk slightly down as you described/lights off (4) stalk slightly down/lights on & see what you get & make a note of the colors/yes or no continuity/what position. What year Ramcharger? Do you have a shop manual for it? 88 ramcharger. I have tried to make every attempt while restoring this truck to make good chassis/body grounds, but I will do as described and see whats up. On a 88 ramcharger is there supposed to be a lil pigtail eyelet to eyelet ground that is to ground the steering column to the dash frame?

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: Moparnut426] #1721027 01/06/15 12:07 AM 01/06/15 12:07 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	If you pull the front park/turn signal bulb out on the affected side does the blinker ind go out ? Ron

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: 383man] #1721028 01/06/15 03:24 PM 01/06/15 03:24 PM
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savoy64 top fuel S Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,042 colorado	its beyond all hope-----time to sell it to a less picky guy........

Re: electrical question Older Ramcharger [Re: savoy64] #1721029 01/06/15 06:30 PM 01/06/15 06:30 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	The reason I was asking about a shop manual is cuz the gas gauge is nonop on my 85 ramcharger & I figured yours would be close enough to be the same in that area if you had something available. Yesterday I looked at the col as I headed out & the plastic cover was in place so I could not see if it has that short black pigtail with the eyelets you asked about underneath (above) the cover & I was in a rush. Actually grounding the col with a jumper wire would take care of that for testing purposes & be easy to do as that is all the pigtail does. On my situation I sure dont wanna drop that tank unless I have to & the open might be further upstream electrically so I have to confirm first live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

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