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reaction time practice??? #1715337 12/25/14 02:45 AM 12/25/14 02:45 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926 B birdtracker OP super stock
birdtracker OP super stock B Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926	So my son bought me a Porta -Tree for Christmas. So what was your biggest tip that helped you out with your reaction times? And yes mine are all over the place. thanks. Birdtracker

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: birdtracker] #1715338 12/25/14 02:58 AM 12/25/14 02:58 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa rebel master
rebel master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,647 aotearoa	practice 10 goes at a time. after a while you'll see your average get lower n lower if you practice too much you'll loose any edge you've gained

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: rebel] #1715339 12/25/14 03:01 AM 12/25/14 03:01 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926 B birdtracker OP super stock
birdtracker OP super stock B Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926	thanks Rebel. I plan on staying at it until spring. Birdtracker

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: birdtracker] #1715340 12/25/14 03:08 AM 12/25/14 03:08 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,174 PA.	Top bulb or bottom bulb racer? 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: birdtracker] #1715341 12/25/14 03:18 AM 12/25/14 03:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 526 NC B barracuda man mopar
barracuda man mopar B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 526 NC	Get as much seat time as u can.do the same thing every round.Your burnout/stage/ect.adjust air pressure if needed and race the finish line always.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: birdtracker] #1715342 12/25/14 05:40 AM 12/25/14 05:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Practice, practice, practice. Get into a routine so you don't even have to think about what you are doing while staging, bringing the rpm's up, etc. YOU get consistent regardless of the actual RT's. Then make changes to the car to adjust the RT's as needed, not yourself. (i.e.: tire diameter, air pressure, staging rpm's, etc.) A person is normally not able to change his/her reactions consistently. Do it mechanically. Lot's of variable in your car will affect how much you can mechanically adjust/change - converter, condition of the brakes, carb set up (ESPECIALLY if footbraking), traction, firmness/slop in the chassis/suspension, etc. Rollout does vary from track-to-track and can from lane-to-lane. Your reactions can vary from day-to-day or even within a day. How much sleep did you get? What's on your mind? Did you drink a lot of caffeinated/sugared coffee, Mountain Dew, etc.? Are you hungry? Your results may vary. Each person is different just like each vehicle can be different. Some people and some vehicles just aren't easily adapted to cut good, consistent reaction times. But try to get YOUR consistency down first. Narrow down your "range", then work on getting that range closer to .000 on the "green" side.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Locomotion] #1715343 12/25/14 08:32 AM 12/25/14 08:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	take Quote: Practice, practice, practice. Get into a routine so you don't even have to think about what you are doing while staging, bringing the rpm's up, etc. YOU get consistent regardless of the actual RT's. Then make changes to the car to adjust the RT's as needed, not yourself. (i.e.: tire diameter, air pressure, staging rpm's, etc.) A person is normally not able to change his/her reactions consistently. Do it mechanically. Lot's of variable in your car will affect how much you can mechanically adjust/change - converter, condition of the brakes, carb set up (ESPECIALLY if footbraking), traction, firmness/slop in the chassis/suspension, etc. Rollout does vary from track-to-track and can from lane-to-lane. Your reactions can vary from day-to-day or even within a day. How much sleep did you get? What's on your mind? Did you drink a lot of caffeinated/sugared coffee, Mountain Dew, etc.? Are you hungry? Your results may vary. Each person is different just like each vehicle can be different. Some people and some vehicles just aren't easily adapted to cut good, consistent reaction times. But try to get YOUR consistency down first. Narrow down your "range", then work on getting that range closer to .000 on the "green" side. take this guys advice he's pretty dang good. almost as good the tree

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Quicktree] #1715344 12/25/14 10:45 AM 12/25/14 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,000 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,000 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Practicing in the car, going through your entire sequence from burnout to launch is important to keeping your mind focused for the race. If you can wire the switch in the car to run the practice tree then you have it all. A mindset of not letting anything other than your bulb into your thinking is key. Any odd thoughts and the reaction time is toast. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Quicktree] #1715345 12/25/14 10:58 AM 12/25/14 10:58 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Frank Hawely said years ago to be thinking about lifting your thumb off that trans brake button the whole time, that way that part is already done in your mind. lol Get in your car in the garage and do the run mentally many times in your head to where like Locomotion said it becomes a routine. Because in drag racing you don't get much seat time compared to like round track racing. I found staying to myself and thinking about the run before in the staging lanes helped me. That and I also ate cold fresh red grapes before every run, it definitely helped me, red grapes.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Challenger 1] #1715346 12/25/14 11:15 AM 12/25/14 11:15 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 939 glendora, ca. D Deepockets super stock
Deepockets super stock D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 939 glendora, ca.	If your a bottom bulb racer, get the led bulbs. I'm a top bulb racer, so I only had to replace the top one on both sides. The rest all the way down the tree have insulators in the sockets so they won't light up. Before I went to the led's I was seeing spots after a couple hits.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Quicktree] #1715347 12/25/14 11:16 AM 12/25/14 11:16 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: take Quote: Practice, practice, practice. Get into a routine so you don't even have to think about what you are doing while staging, bringing the rpm's up, etc. YOU get consistent regardless of the actual RT's. Then make changes to the car to adjust the RT's as needed, not yourself. (i.e.: tire diameter, air pressure, staging rpm's, etc.) A person is normally not able to change his/her reactions consistently. Do it mechanically. Lot's of variable in your car will affect how much you can mechanically adjust/change - converter, condition of the brakes, carb set up (ESPECIALLY if footbraking), traction, firmness/slop in the chassis/suspension, etc. Rollout does vary from track-to-track and can from lane-to-lane. Your reactions can vary from day-to-day or even within a day. How much sleep did you get? What's on your mind? Did you drink a lot of caffeinated/sugared coffee, Mountain Dew, etc.? Are you hungry? Your results may vary. Each person is different just like each vehicle can be different. Some people and some vehicles just aren't easily adapted to cut good, consistent reaction times. But try to get YOUR consistency down first. Narrow down your "range", then work on getting that range closer to .000 on the "green" side. take this guys advice he's pretty dang good. almost as good the tree -and practice during your down time. 8373242-portatree.jpg (51 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Crizila] #1715348 12/25/14 01:18 PM 12/25/14 01:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926 B birdtracker OP super stock
birdtracker OP super stock B Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ thats a serious racer! Birdtracker

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: birdtracker] #1715349 12/25/14 08:36 PM 12/25/14 08:36 PM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction @ @#$%&*! New user name, Same old jerk!
@#$%&*! New user name, Same old jerk! @ Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1,131 Thigh-Gap Junction	I need vitamin B supplements or I'm in trouble. Being a top-bulb racer I installed a switch in my daily driver, now every traffic light is a practice tree. You need your reaction to the tree to be an involuntary one, that's what practice does for you. Once you find yourself reacting to lights even if you get distracted or your mind wanders you know you're getting there.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Crizila] #1715350 12/25/14 09:49 PM 12/25/14 09:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid 340B5 pro stock
340B5 pro stock Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,532 off the grid	Quote: Quote: take Quote: Practice, practice, practice. Get into a routine so you don't even have to think about what you are doing while staging, bringing the rpm's up, etc. YOU get consistent regardless of the actual RT's. Then make changes to the car to adjust the RT's as needed, not yourself. (i.e.: tire diameter, air pressure, staging rpm's, etc.) A person is normally not able to change his/her reactions consistently. Do it mechanically. Lot's of variable in your car will affect how much you can mechanically adjust/change - converter, condition of the brakes, carb set up (ESPECIALLY if footbraking), traction, firmness/slop in the chassis/suspension, etc. Rollout does vary from track-to-track and can from lane-to-lane. Your reactions can vary from day-to-day or even within a day. How much sleep did you get? What's on your mind? Did you drink a lot of caffeinated/sugared coffee, Mountain Dew, etc.? Are you hungry? Your results may vary. Each person is different just like each vehicle can be different. Some people and some vehicles just aren't easily adapted to cut good, consistent reaction times. But try to get YOUR consistency down first. Narrow down your "range", then work on getting that range closer to .000 on the "green" side. take this guys advice he's pretty dang good. almost as good the tree -and practice during your down time. That's the unit I have. (with a foot pedal) I noticed I have to see the yellow and think(click) before I go bang(hit the pedal). Yeah, it's got a smallblock.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Quicktree] #1715351 12/26/14 03:58 PM 12/26/14 03:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,366 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,366 Las Vegas	Practice!!! You need to shoot for a small window and work form there. What I am referring to is trying to get your reaction times to fall in a small grouping, say a few thousands on a regular basis. That is what you are shooting for with a practice tree. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1715352 12/26/14 06:17 PM 12/26/14 06:17 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Practice!!! You need to shoot for a small window and work form there. What I am referring to is trying to get your reaction times to fall in a small grouping, say a few thousands on a regular basis. That is what you are shooting for with a practice tree. - and then adjusting the car so that small grouping falls under .030. Very difficult without electronics and a moving target DA. You often have to go 5 rounds to get to the finals - and they all better be under .030 or it won't make any difference how close you are to your dial. Fastest 300

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Crizila] #1715353 12/26/14 08:34 PM 12/26/14 08:34 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 687 Ohio Chad Bittle mopar
Chad Bittle mopar Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 687 Ohio	For me....consistency. From the time I pull into the waterbox until I turn the stage bulb on. Everything the same, every time.

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Chad Bittle] #1715354 12/26/14 09:30 PM 12/26/14 09:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: For me....consistency. From the time I pull into the waterbox until I turn the stage bulb on. Everything the same, every time. That's a gimme there. There is still a lot of distractions that pop up that are out of your control. Pic - waiting for a clean up in "isle 2" and some guy comes over to my car and introduces himself while I am in the "holding pattern". Ran dead nuts on my dial ( 10.67 ) and had a shatty reaction time - and lost. 8374566-DaStrip2.jpg (63 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: Crizila] #1715355 12/31/14 06:16 PM 12/31/14 06:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 836 Up a holler, down a crick B booger super stock
booger super stock B Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 836 Up a holler, down a crick	I've been working on this over the holidays since I'm off work. The stats show I'm not doing too good, but I'll use the excuse that I'm trying hard to find/fix bugs, not to cut a good light. I'm in process of adding top-bulb play capability, and it's already got adjustable dial-ins with staggered timing and adjustable roll-out. It currently only runs on a PC/laptop but I really should go ahead and port it to a phone/tablet. 8379644-Clipboard01.jpg (71 downloads) Last edited by booger; 12/31/14 06:20 PM. Chasing bears through the woods drunk with a dull hatchet is strongly not advised

Re: reaction time practice??? [Re: booger] #1715356 12/31/14 06:23 PM 12/31/14 06:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926 B birdtracker OP super stock
birdtracker OP super stock B Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 926	is that something you found on the web? I have been practicing now for a few weeks and my times have improved. Plan on staying with it even after the season starts. Birdtracker

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