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67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170948 12/19/08 06:13 PM 12/19/08 06:13 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Was it standard for a 67 GTX 440 4 speed to come with a Dana? If so, what where the common gears found in them?

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170949 12/19/08 06:19 PM 12/19/08 06:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes, 3:54 Standard

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170950 12/19/08 06:22 PM 12/19/08 06:22 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Thanks, I thought so. Now I'm off to the parts wanted section.

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170951 12/19/08 06:34 PM 12/19/08 06:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	Yes, DANA 60 & 3.54:1 (the only available gear ratio) 3:54 Standard, Scott it's actually 2:34 PDT (Pacific Daylight Time)

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: 6bblgt] #170952 12/19/08 06:39 PM 12/19/08 06:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	They had 10.1 compression too

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170953 12/19/08 07:04 PM 12/19/08 07:04 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Was the 18 spline trans standard too? This is my first pre '68 mopar

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170954 12/19/08 07:14 PM 12/19/08 07:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Yes, the only combo's available in a 67 GTX were: 440 or 426 Hemi All 4 speed cars came standard with a 3.54 Dana 60, all 4 speed cars came with 18 Spline Hemi 4 speed transmissions. All automatics came standard with an 83/4 rear, you could not order a Dana in an automatic car in 1967. BTW, a quick way to see if it's got a correct Dana without checking the SO number is to look for a drain plug in the bottom of the rear end case, after about mid year 68 the plug was eliminated. Also, 1967 was the last year that the VIN was not stamped on the engine or trans so the trans case will not have a raised pad for the number, 1968 and later transmissions had the raised pad on the passenger side.

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170955 12/19/08 07:16 PM 12/19/08 07:16 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Thanks Scott!

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170956 12/19/08 08:14 PM 12/19/08 08:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,518 Las Vegas, NV	1967 GTX 86 - 440HP 4bbl - STD 395 - auto trans (727) - STD 393 - 4-speed (18 spline H.D.) - no-charge option but required GTX ONLY w/393 408 - H.D. differential (DANA 60 w/3.54 gears & sure-grip) - $138.90

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170957 12/20/08 08:10 PM 12/20/08 08:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA rrunner master
rrunner master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,407 S.E. Florida, USA	Quote: Was the 18 spline trans standard too? This is my first pre '68 mopar A buddy of mine has a 67 18 spline trans if you need one.

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170958 12/21/08 09:43 AM 12/21/08 09:43 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 580 North Carolina, USA S Silverbullet2 mopar
Silverbullet2 mopar S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 580 North Carolina, USA	Thanks for the info on the drain plug Scott. My 68 has it. Even though it's tagged 3.54, "somehow" a 4.10 screw found it's way in there during the rebuild.

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: Silverbullet2] #170959 12/21/08 10:49 AM 12/21/08 10:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,735 North Dakota 6PakBee I Live Here
6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,735 North Dakota	A '68 differential is about 1/2" wider than a '66-'67. So the "drain plug" approach is not the entire story, just one part. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: 6PakBee] #170960 12/21/08 11:38 AM 12/21/08 11:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	6pak, yea I know, but it will be a good place to start, if it has the plug it's pretty likely the original, but by no means definate without checking the BOM#.

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170961 12/22/08 02:14 PM 12/22/08 02:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Minnesota 69Y2RT enthusiast
69Y2RT enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Minnesota	Quote: Also, 1967 was the last year that the VIN was not stamped on the engine or trans so the trans case will not have a raised pad for the number, 1968 and later transmissions had the raised pad on the passenger side. Not always true, this is a pic of the original transmission case from my 1967 Satellite built on 6-06-67 and has the vin pad and no vin stamped into it, just a date code. 4894987-DSCF0015.JPG (92 downloads) 1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X 1967 Satellite 383 4speed

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: 69Y2RT] #170962 12/22/08 02:45 PM 12/22/08 02:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Being near the end of production I would see that as possible, but it's a rarity for sure, in fact that's one of the few I've seen. Can you post a pic of the pad close and clear? Does it have the aluminum assembly tag on the cover side?

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170963 12/22/08 03:53 PM 12/22/08 03:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Minnesota 69Y2RT enthusiast
69Y2RT enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Minnesota	I will have to pull it out of storage to get a pic of the pad. I will try to get one tonight. I don't remember seeing any tags on the cover side, I will look for that too. It suprised me too, when I picked the car up from the swamp it was in I found the trans laying in the mud about 100 feet from the car in pieces. I saw the vin pad and figgured it was a 68 trans. When I hit it with break cleaner I could see the number stamp. I looked it up to see what it was from I realized it was the original trans for the car. 1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X 1967 Satellite 383 4speed

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question #170964 12/24/08 06:17 PM 12/24/08 06:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA M mopar4ya master
mopar4ya master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Quote: Was the 18 spline trans standard too? This is my first pre '68 mopar The 1967 18 spline transmission will have the small front input bearing and retainer as well. Dan

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170965 01/21/09 04:15 PM 01/21/09 04:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Minnesota 69Y2RT enthusiast
69Y2RT enthusiast Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Minnesota	Quote: Being near the end of production I would see that as possible, but it's a rarity for sure, in fact that's one of the few I've seen. Can you post a pic of the pad close and clear? Does it have the aluminum assembly tag on the cover side? I haven't forgot yet, just haven't had a chance to get the pics. I did stop and look at it but I didn't have the camera with, I was wrong about the date stamp. The pad wasn't even machined flat and I didn't notice a aluminum tag on the cover side. 1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X 1967 Satellite 383 4speed

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170966 01/21/09 05:40 PM 01/21/09 05:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,445 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,445 So Cal	Quote: Yes, 3:54 Standard Also Chrysler had a supporting program for swapping out the Dana center pieces for different ratios @ the dealer level. In my 67 Mopar Hemi purchased new I had the dealer install a 4.10 instead of the factory-installed 3.54. I think the take-out 3.54 piece was then dropped off into their national parts system... Just my $0.02...

Re: 67 GTX 4 speed differential question [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #170967 02/13/09 09:24 PM 02/13/09 09:24 PM
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Anonymous OP Unregistered A	Quote: 6pak, yea I know, but it will be a good place to start, if it has the plug it's pretty likely the original, but by no means definate without checking the BOM#. What would the BOM# be for a '67 GTX? I can't seem to find anything prior to '68 calender year.

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