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I see alot of complaining about 59* blocks and how the Victor head could be better utilized on a different block
How many guys need more then 8000rpm w a 420+ ci motor ?
The 59* stuff works fine for 98.9 % of what guys wanna do out there.
This is what went in nascar and went 500laps in heat and at high rpm..
Just sayin

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.

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I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.

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I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.

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So you can run offset lifters on a 59 degree block? I inquired about this a while back and several chimed in and said the link bars would snap almost immediately.

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So who wants to get rid of some W9RP rocker arms? I've got some crap laying around to have some 59* fun!

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I sold off all my W-9 stuff when I sold my W-9 engine..
all I have now is W2s and W-5s on stock LA blocks
till I start my gen3

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So who wants to get rid of some W9RP rocker arms? I've got some crap laying around to have some 59* fun!

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I sold off all my W-9 stuff when I sold my W-9 engine..
all I have now is W2s and W-5s on stock LA blocks
till I start my gen3

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.

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i would like to see a pair on a stock block and sit next to me lol

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What degree are SB Chevy's? Just curious.

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Sorry wrong post, I believe they are 48*

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.

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I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.

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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.

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Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.

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I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.

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What does your Dakota weigh, if you don't mind me asking???
Keith

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The X block is a little insurance for the bottom end.
As for the lifter angle , it will clearly work with good parts up to 8000 + rpms.
But back when the X blocks were as good as it got , serious players moved the lifters around to address pushrod angle.
And it was done for us with the advent of the 48 degree blocks.
If 59 degree is what you have , go forth and sin no more.
If I was starting from scratch ( like I did ) then the decision was clear.
Honestly , it is not as easy now as it was five - six years ago when I embarked on my ordeal.
I had my choice of R blocks then.
It's definitely a little tougher now.
My next deal will be a 59 degree 340 going in an '80 Volare wagon , but it isn't going to be as radical a build as my Dart so I think it will be just fine.
But if I intend to make some real steam , the 59 degree stuff would not be my first choice.

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The X block is a little insurance for the bottom end.
As for the lifter angle , it will clearly work with good parts up to 8000 + rpms.
But back when the X blocks were as good as it got , serious players moved the lifters around to address pushrod angle.
And it was done for us with the advent of the 48 degree blocks.
If 59 degree is what you have , go forth and sin no more.
If I was starting from scratch ( like I did ) then the decision was clear.
Honestly , it is not as easy now as it was five - six years ago when I embarked on my ordeal.
I had my choice of R blocks then.
It's definitely a little tougher now.
My next deal will be a 59 degree 340 going in an '80 Volare wagon , but it isn't going to be as radical a build as my Dart so I think it will be just fine.
But if I intend to make some real steam , the 59 degree stuff would not be my first choice.

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Put em on a magnum block, they are stronger than any stock LA blocks ever were and there is 550-600 hp 340 blocks surviving

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Anyone remember back in like 08-09 when Aaron Yates' dart was going low 5's with a 59* W9, X block and a single stage on stock suspension and 275's.... that would still be competitive today at a lot of events. I think 59* is fine for probably 90% of us

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Anyone remember back in like 08-09 when Aaron Yates' dart was going low 5's with a 59* W9, X block and a single stage on stock suspension and 275's.... that would still be competitive today at a lot of events. I think 59* is fine for probably 90% of us

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Anybody know what happened to Aaron? I sold him a Chapman W7 setup. Wonder if he ever did anything with the W7 stuff.

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Look where the center main bearings are anchored to the side of the block near the pan rail. There is extra meat under the pan rail sort of like a TA block just not quite that drastic. Also after clearancing blocks to build stroker motors you can tell the material changed, I am no metallurgist by any means but it is a lot harder to grind. I tend to see less core shift in general (there may be some LA blocks better than bad magnums but they are more the exception than the norm as far as core shift). Last small detail that may add some strength is the extra mount bosses all over the out side, expecially the 02-03 blocks.

I like almost free roller cam set ups also... now I do know about the 89-92 360 block having a roller cam but they are harder to find as they only came in trucks and dodge was not selling a lot of trucks till 94. Also that block does not have the extra meat around the mains.

I am not going to claim they are like an X block or anything but for the price difference (almost none) they are definately worth using if you plan to push a stock block really hard.

I think the difference in bore size does not outweight the blocks other strengths. In a perfect world we would have R3 blocks from the JY at $100 a pop but we don't. Also those LA 360 blocks that could safely go 4.100 are very rare, most of them are lucky to have enough real meat to be safe at 4.030.

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I guess it comes down to how you define "real steam" to me Yates' low 5's is pretty damn good. I'd be thrilled if my car ever went that quick and I don't care what the lifter angle is lol.
I have one style and we're considering building a 59* version for little bro but really need W9RP rocker arms to make it happen

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well ive had some good luck with 59 stuff cant complain

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My 454" deal is siamese 59 degree R3. It badly needs a set of heads to make it run, I've had too many other things going on lately to make the switch.

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