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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: fishy340]
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12/08/14 10:45 PM
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I would like too see your indy's and a new victor on the same flow bench to see who is king.
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: fishy340]
#1708361
12/08/14 11:03 PM
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I see alot of complaining about 59* blocks and how the Victor head could be better utilized on a different block
How many guys need more then 8000rpm w a 420+ ci motor ?
The 59* stuff works fine for 98.9 % of what guys wanna do out there.
This is what went in nascar and went 500laps in heat and at high rpm..
Just sayin
A pliers will loosen a nut too.
Is it the best tool for the job ?
No doubt , you can make a stout 59 degree small block.
But at the point where these heads ( if the flow numbers bear out ) go to work is the point where the stock block becomes marginal.
Will it work ?
Probably.
But rounding off the corners at that point gets pretty pricey.
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: fishy340]
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12/09/14 12:02 AM
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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.
Totally agree. 59 will take more pounding than people think. Seems everyone talks about how weak the stock blocks are. ...but I hear of very few being broke because of power.
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: fishy340]
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12/09/14 12:04 AM
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Put em on a magnum block, they are stronger than any stock LA blocks ever were and there is 550-600 hp 340 blocks surviving  It would not live up to the heads potential but it beats full ported RPMs that seem to stop around 600 in serious effort engines. The victor would just be getting started. To help with the 59* lifter issue I prefer a higher ratio rocker to straighten the lifter/PR angle slightly and access flow faster. It is a small crutch for a *59 engine but the shallower valve angle is going to help also by tilting the top of the valve away from the intake. Of course my favorite option is to stuff a 4.25 crank in there to bring the RPM down.
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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12/09/14 12:34 AM
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jacksonville,FLORIDA
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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.
Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.
I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.
2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: slammedR/T]
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12/09/14 12:44 AM
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I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.
So you can run offset lifters on a 59 degree block? I inquired about this a while back and several chimed in and said the link bars would snap almost immediately.
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: 496 A-body]
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12/09/14 12:49 AM
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I got a set of 360-1's they are the cnc 245's but the raised port vesion. Ryan did them and said they more around 255cc and I remember a set he did on here in the 365 @ .700" lift range. I also have a magnum block and T&D 1.7 shaft rockers. I have the MRL Performance offset lifters and spin mine to 8K with no issues.
So you can run offset lifters on a 59 degree block? I inquired about this a while back and several chimed in and said the link bars would snap almost immediately.
the comps will snap the link bars because they can't handle the twist force from the lifter angle. The MRL's have a WAY! stronger link bar and they way they are linked together is stronger. I have run mine for awhile now till I had a sleeve failure(my factory block was sleeved in 04) and then a cracked head(which is fixed now thank god). More time slips to come. Thought I had oil pressure issue with them but i figured out that problem.
2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: SpareParts]
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12/09/14 02:03 AM
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So who wants to get rid of some W9RP rocker arms? I've got some crap laying around to have some 59* fun!  
I sold off all my W-9 stuff when I sold my W-9 engine..
all I have now is W2s and W-5s on stock LA blocks
till I start my gen3
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/09/14 02:05 AM
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Janesville, WI
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So who wants to get rid of some W9RP rocker arms? I've got some crap laying around to have some 59* fun!
I sold off all my W-9 stuff when I sold my W-9 engine..
all I have now is W2s and W-5s on stock LA blocks
till I start my gen3
Thanks for the help! LOL
Do ya know of any? Maybe you got some lunch box items from Mopar?? Lol
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Re: what's wrong with 59* sb's
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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12/09/14 01:41 PM
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Their are of course limitations but how many push to that limit ?
The head choice is limited but not like before w9,victors and stuff like this came out.
As far as a stock block goes FILL IT they are tuff sobs them 340's...:)
Brad my indy were below 330cfm but it suprised me on the power it makes.
Mine from Ryan went [Email]346@700[/Email] if I remeber. But like I said I would like to see them on the same bench at the same time.
i would like to see a pair on a stock block and sit next to me lol
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