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Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: WHITEDART] #1707605 12/08/14 08:14 AM 12/08/14 08:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 403 Romulus, MI GTS340 mopar
GTS340 mopar Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 403 Romulus, MI	Quote: now T&D is making a nice rocker arm for the hemi.and harlem sharp has a new version seems to work well.I don't think it's fair that we compare a performance w series or aftermarket Indy head to a production Gen 3 That's my point. I was just hoping someone had ETs to share from an apples to apples to comparison between the two.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: GTS340] #1707606 12/08/14 10:30 AM 12/08/14 10:30 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: now T&D is making a nice rocker arm for the hemi.and harlem sharp has a new version seems to work well.I don't think it's fair that we compare a performance w series or aftermarket Indy head to a production Gen 3 That's my point. I was just hoping someone had ETs to share from an apples to apples to comparison between the two. Wasn't the one who came in edelbrock victor head post and said hemi heads flow just as much as them stock. Wasn't the one who asked for a combo when some said a old design indy head out proformed them, just show a running combo. Now you want a apple to apple or a 2000 cad designed head compaired to a 1950(?) designed head. LOL hope something improved in the past 50 years. How much do these rockers cost and what kind of lift can you run with them? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1707607 12/08/14 01:04 PM 12/08/14 01:04 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	The Gen3 stuff will be no different than the LA stuff.. given some time the Gen3 will have plenty of parts and will out perform the LA... they didnt come out with a W series head for years after the LA came out.. the gen3 stock block will take more power than a stock LA block now

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1707608 12/08/14 01:34 PM 12/08/14 01:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART master
WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	The gen 3 won't have the benefit and R$D of been used in places were money is no object like w stuff Has had in sprint, nascar,pro stock.It will take time but they will come a round.people are still trying to figure out how to make them work the good thing is its a small block In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: WHITEDART] #1707609 12/08/14 09:46 PM 12/08/14 09:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,991 Anoka County, MN L Leigh master
Leigh master L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,991 Anoka County, MN	Nice to know there hopefully will be another option, for people like me with 59* R block based iron.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: Leigh] #1707610 12/08/14 11:24 PM 12/08/14 11:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 214 Colo Springs, CO DconD100 enthusiast
DconD100 enthusiast Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 214 Colo Springs, CO	I spoke to one of the guys at Hughes, and he told me that Edelbrock sent them a CNC ported head to put on their flow bench. He thought it has 2.12 intake valves, and they only have the one. Supposedly they are going to be available in January. Pump Gas Small Blocks Rock! 11.53 @ 116mph E85 408 at 8500 ft da, 3605 pound truck, 3.91s, street driven

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: DconD100] #1707611 12/08/14 11:28 PM 12/08/14 11:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer OP "Little"John
pittsburghracer OP "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Combustion chamber volume 58cc Intake runner volume 225cc Exhaust runner volume 62cc Intake valve diameter 2.15" Exhaust valve diameter 1.60" Valve stem diameter 11/32" Valve guides Manganese bronze Deck thickness 5/8" Valve spring diameter 1.55" Valve spring maximum lift .650" Rocker stud N/A Guideplate N/A Pushrod diameter 5/16" Valve angle 16� Exhaust port location Raised Spark plug fitment 14mm x 3/4 reach, gasket seat Made In USA 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1707612 12/08/14 11:47 PM 12/08/14 11:47 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,396 Pa Hot 340 master
Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,396 Pa	That w5 exhaust pattern is a real kick in the nuts. With all the w2 headers for Indy floating around you would think... ahhh never mind.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: Hot 340] #1707613 12/09/14 12:03 AM 12/09/14 12:03 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,922 canaan ct usa M moparclown top fuel
moparclown top fuel M Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,922 canaan ct usa	Who will be at the PRI show? please if you can get some pics because the wait on these heads has left me feeling like a donkey with a carrot hung out in front.

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: Hot 340] #1707614 12/09/14 12:34 AM 12/09/14 12:34 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,200 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: May 2003 Posts: 13,200 aZLiViN	Quote: That w5 exhaust pattern is a real kick in the nuts. With all the w2 headers for Indy floating around you would think... ahhh never mind. ...I was counting on that to help sell my TTI W5 headers!

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1707615 12/09/14 12:36 AM 12/09/14 12:36 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Combustion chamber volume 58cc Intake runner volume 225cc Exhaust runner volume 62cc Intake valve diameter 2.15" Exhaust valve diameter 1.60" Valve stem diameter 11/32" Valve guides Manganese bronze Deck thickness 5/8" Valve spring diameter 1.55" Valve spring maximum lift .650" Rocker stud N/A Guideplate N/A Pushrod diameter 5/16" Valve angle 16� Exhaust port location Raised Spark plug fitment 14mm x 3/4 reach, gasket seat Made In USA This is the head to run in ultra if it flows anywhere close to what they say. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1707616 12/09/14 12:40 AM 12/09/14 12:40 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA. pittsburghracer OP "Little"John
pittsburghracer OP "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,185 PA.	Quote: Quote: Combustion chamber volume 58cc Intake runner volume 225cc Exhaust runner volume 62cc Intake valve diameter 2.15" Exhaust valve diameter 1.60" Valve stem diameter 11/32" Valve guides Manganese bronze Deck thickness 5/8" Valve spring diameter 1.55" Valve spring maximum lift .650" Rocker stud N/A Guideplate N/A Pushrod diameter 5/16" Valve angle 16� Exhaust port location Raised Spark plug fitment 14mm x 3/4 reach, gasket seat Made In USA This is the head to run in ultra if it flows anywhere close to what they say. planning on a big block at this time UNLESS I happen to find a GOOD block. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1707617 12/09/14 12:48 AM 12/09/14 12:48 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: Combustion chamber volume 58cc Intake runner volume 225cc Exhaust runner volume 62cc Intake valve diameter 2.15" Exhaust valve diameter 1.60" Valve stem diameter 11/32" Valve guides Manganese bronze Deck thickness 5/8" Valve spring diameter 1.55" Valve spring maximum lift .650" Rocker stud N/A Guideplate N/A Pushrod diameter 5/16" Valve angle 16� Exhaust port location Raised Spark plug fitment 14mm x 3/4 reach, gasket seat Made In USA This is the head to run in ultra if it flows anywhere close to what they say. planning on a big block at this time UNLESS I happen to find a GOOD block. With the 16* valve angle you fall into the plus or minus 2* rule from stock. So you can run these at a stock valve angle weight. So a r3 at 440 cu inch with these heads could be 3050 lbs. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1707618 12/09/14 12:52 AM 12/09/14 12:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA W5DART66 top fuel
W5DART66 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,784 PA	If they ever get done I will do CNC program for them. Had one in my hand last year and was not impressed Exhaust port will be good intake not so much... So flow number look backwards to me ???? I would think more like 330-350 intake and 250-265 ex. And Brads right would be the Mopar head to have in ultra but is 16* valve angle get the stock head break???

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: W5DART66] #1707619 12/09/14 12:58 AM 12/09/14 12:58 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt master
1967dartgt master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	Quote: If they ever get done I will do CNC program for them. Had one in my hand last year and was not impressed Exhaust port will be good intake not so much... So flow number look backwards to me ???? I would think more like 330-350 intake and 250-265 ex. And Brads right would be the Mopar head to have in ultra but is 16* valve angle get the stock head break??? Heavy weight is 15* and down. Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: W5DART66] #1707620 12/09/14 02:23 AM 12/09/14 02:23 AM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Quote: If they ever get done I will do CNC program for them. Had one in my hand last year and was not impressed Exhaust port will be good intake not so much... So flow number look backwards to me I would think more like 330-350 intake and 250-265 ex. And Brads right would be the Mopar head to have in ultra but is 16* valve angle get the stock head break??? Under 15* gets hit with weight...me and Brad only have to be 3200...smh

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: fishy340] #1707621 12/12/14 08:34 PM 12/12/14 08:34 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,922 canaan ct usa M moparclown top fuel
moparclown top fuel M Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,922 canaan ct usa	So did the heads make it to the PRI show?

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: moparclown] #1707622 12/12/14 08:49 PM 12/12/14 08:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	what heads?

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: Quicktree] #1707623 12/12/14 10:05 PM 12/12/14 10:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 733 jacksonville,FLORIDA slammedR/T super stock
slammedR/T super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 733 jacksonville,FLORIDA	Quote: what heads? those heads 2000 Dakota R/T, 408 magnum, 727, Indy heads 1000cfm 4150 carb, 93 octane fuel. motor; 10.258 @ 132.78 200 shot; 9.262 @ 144.69 racemagnum

Re: Victor small block Mopar head updates. [Re: slammedR/T] #1707624 12/12/14 10:15 PM 12/12/14 10:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca W WHITEDART master
WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	can you roll your W8/9 head back one degree to get the weight break. that is kind of stuff they do out here. In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

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