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Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
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11/28/14 12:24 PM
11/28/14 12:24 PM
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Bishop
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I just seen Hughes flow # for the Edelbrock Victor heads any one using these CNC ported heads, looks like they out flow Indy -1 heads
Edelbrock Big Block Victor
(Monster (Max) Wedge Port Size)
Fully C.N.C. Ported
# HUG77949-S3 355cc int port vol
Flow tests below show results from our SAENZ 680 Flow Bench
Lift Stock Intake CFM CNC'd Intake CFM CFM Gained Stock Exhaust CFM CNC'd Exhaust CFM CFM Gained
.100 74.4 79 5
.200 137.0
164 30 99.4 121.0 21.6
.300 191.7 245 43.3 158.1 166.0 7.9
.350 220.1 270 47.9 180.8 193.5 12.7
.400 247.8 300 45.2 198.8 202.0 3.2
.450 273.9 328 43.1 215.3 230.2 14.9
.500 293.8 351 53.2 224.9 232.0 7.1
.550 309.5 366 45.5 230.9 240.3 9.4
.600 310.7 380 65.3 235.9 255.0 19.1
.650 311.0 391 73.0 239.0 260.8 21.8
.700 316.4 397 79.6 240.7 267.0 26.3
.750 318.6 397 60.4 241.9 270.5 28.6
.800 322.0 406 86 244.0 273.0 29.0
Last edited by Bishop; 11/28/14 12:26 PM.
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: Bishop]
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11/28/14 12:36 PM
11/28/14 12:36 PM
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Brian those are some good numbers however ----- I don't race flow benches so the question I would ask is ---- anyone running these heads and what is the real world performance with these heads  as compared to??
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
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11/29/14 02:57 PM
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Will be dynoing a set of Victor 440 max wedge heads on my sons 493 late next week, can't wait to see the numbers !
What type of port work (if any) has been done to those heads? If ported, do you have any flow test results?
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: BradH]
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11/29/14 05:30 PM
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Looking at all the flow numbers on hughes site, the MW Victors really stand out. I would have thought they'd need at least 500 ci.
Mick
69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200#
best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft
best 60ft 1.36
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: Thumperdart]
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11/29/14 06:46 PM
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Those flow numbers are right on par with a set of CNC Gen III Apache heads.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: BradH]
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11/29/14 07:46 PM
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Will be dynoing a set of Victor 440 max wedge heads on my sons 493 late next week, can't wait to see the numbers !
What type of port work (if any) has been done to those heads? If ported, do you have any flow test results?
I did the port work on these heads and it pretty much only amounted to a clean up and fixing the port entry that Edelbrock for whatever reason doesn't finish.
I had Brian @IMM flow only one chamber, I just wanted to get a ball park as to where they stood, without optimizing the valve job or any other tricks, the intake flowed 368 @.700 and the Exhaust went either 228 or 238 I can't remember, Nick has the sheet.
Again, this wasn't anything more than a clean -up and the as delivered valve job.
Joey
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: mshred]
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12/01/14 12:32 AM
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Impressive numbers! What size of engine needs to be used to take full advantage of the airflow and the port size of these heads?
The 440-1 size ports will work well on motors from 440 to about 572 cubes. A 440 will have a very high torque peak, over 5600 rpm, and a 572 would peak torque somewhere around 4800 or less. My 528 seemed to be a good size and makes peak torque at 5,100, peak hp at 6900 and 7000 rpm.
Just my opinion, but I think the sweet spot for size is 528 to 540 cubes.
8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: 340KID]
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12/01/14 02:25 PM
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Hey Joey,
The heads look awesome, motor is coming together nicely, can't wait to see what numbers this pulls.,
I will post full specs of build when I get them next week !
Nick,
Nice to see them going to use, now if you ever need the short block that went with it, LOL I still have the short block for sale!!
Joey
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Re: Edelbrock Victor vs Indy -1 Heads
[Re: jake4cars]
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12/01/14 03:04 PM
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My 440-1 heads with the Indy CNC-325 ports and 2.18 intake valve flow way more on the ex than those Victors. Intake, not nearly as good. Had Jim LaRoy fix the valve job and that is the reason for the before / after. Probably should have had him put in 2.25 valves.  lift............before..........after .100..........69/61.........80/68 .200........144/123......158/134 .300........215/172......226/183 .400........274/217......277/229 .500........321/251......320/265 .600........346/280......349/290 .700........362/301......368/307 .800........372/317......372/327
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I had MCH CNC port two different sets of 440-1, both sets had the 2.250 intake valves. Those heads flowed about 30 CFM better than my SR did at the upper lifts on the same flow bench 
