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12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? #1697645 11/11/14 09:03 PM 11/11/14 09:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Just put an electric choke on my 850 Holley. Were is the best place to tap in to get my ignitioned 12V source? I've done this in the past but just can't recall where I ended up getting that from in the engine compartment. Thanks. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: TimS] #1697646 11/11/14 10:26 PM 11/11/14 10:26 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	I dropped a short line down several inches to the blue wire switched 12V alt field wire in the loom along side the inside of the pass valve cover. people have said to tap back at the fuse block to avoid a voltage drop to the coil from tapping into the blue alt/ballast/ecu wire but with good connections/minimal voltage drops I think it is a non issue in that any draw in the system is going to lower the voltage no matter where it tapps into the system at. Unrelated, it made the elec choke on my eddy 1406 come off WAY to quick in cold weather. The car (65 dart 318) got totalled before I could figure out a solution live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: RapidRobert] #1697647 11/11/14 10:35 PM 11/11/14 10:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: I dropped a short line down several inches to the blue wire switched 12V alt field wire in the loom along side the inside of the pass valve cover. people have said to tap back at the fuse block to avoid a voltage drop to the coil from tapping into the blue alt/ballast/ecu wire but with good connections/minimal voltage drops I think it is a non issue in that any draw in the system is going to lower the voltage no matter where it tapps into the system at. Unrelated, it made the elec choke on my eddy 1406 come off WAY to quick in cold weather. The car (65 dart 318) got totalled before I could figure out a solution Sounds like a place to start with. Sounds like the spot I had done before. I know I didn't go far but did stay away from the coil as suggested in the instructions. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: TimS] #1697648 11/12/14 03:24 AM 11/12/14 03:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Quote: Just put an electric choke on my 850 Holley. Were is the best place to tap in to get my ignitioned 12V source? I've done this in the past but just can't recall where I ended up getting that from in the engine compartment. Thanks. EZ use a dual tab connector on the input side of the ballast resistor.. Available from Napa, AutoZone.. See the pix.. Just my $0.02... 8328755-images-11.jpeg (603 downloads)

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: TimS] #1697649 11/12/14 12:51 PM 11/12/14 12:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,046 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,046 Benton, IL.	In order to minimize any additional load on the ignition circuit, I always use a relay. I bolt it to the rear mounting bolt on the carb. Pick up the power from the alternator stud and trigger it with the blue wire. Master, again and still

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: DaveRS23] #1697650 11/12/14 01:09 PM 11/12/14 01:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I use the keyed accessory port on the fusebox. Simple and easy. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: roe] #1697651 11/12/14 04:23 PM 11/12/14 04:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,767 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,767 Rio Linda, CA	The blue wire on the voltage regulator is lots closer to the carb than the fuse box. The amp draw from the choke is minimal, won't affect the ignition operation. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: John_Kunkel] #1697652 11/12/14 04:43 PM 11/12/14 04:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,365 Iowa	If the car originally had an electric choke assist, there should already be a blue power wire right at the choke in the wiring harness.

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: burdar] #1697653 11/12/14 05:53 PM 11/12/14 05:53 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,578 Gone Away P pink68 pro stock
pink68 pro stock P Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,578 Gone Away	I pulled it off the coil

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: pink68] #1697654 11/12/14 06:56 PM 11/12/14 06:56 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: I pulled it off the coil Worst choice possible. The coil doesn't get 12volts, except during cranking. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: John_Kunkel] #1697655 11/12/14 09:41 PM 11/12/14 09:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: The blue wire on the voltage regulator is lots closer to the carb than the fuse box. The amp draw from the choke is minimal, won't affect the ignition operation. That's my plan. Thanks. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: burdar] #1697656 11/12/14 09:44 PM 11/12/14 09:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: If the car originally had an electric choke assist, there should already be a blue power wire right at the choke in the wiring harness. I should have specified but it's on my 69 R/T. Originally non electric. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: John_Kunkel] #1697657 11/12/14 10:38 PM 11/12/14 10:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,587 St. John's Newfoundland 440newport master
440newport master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,587 St. John's Newfoundland	Quote: The blue wire on the voltage regulator is lots closer to the carb than the fuse box. The amp draw from the choke is minimal, won't affect the ignition operation. When I tried this on my truck it would over charge slightly. From 14.5 to about 15.5v at fast idle at the battery. When I removed the wire from the choke the voltage came back down.

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: 440newport] #1697658 11/12/14 10:52 PM 11/12/14 10:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Quote: The blue wire on the voltage regulator is lots closer to the carb than the fuse box. The amp draw from the choke is minimal, won't affect the ignition operation. When I tried this on my truck it would over charge slightly. From 14.5 to about 15.5v at fast idle at the battery. When I removed the wire from the choke the voltage came back down. That ain't good at all. Where exactly where you tapped in at? live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: 440newport] #1697659 11/14/14 09:38 AM 11/14/14 09:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: Quote: The blue wire on the voltage regulator is lots closer to the carb than the fuse box. The amp draw from the choke is minimal, won't affect the ignition operation. When I tried this on my truck it would over charge slightly. From 14.5 to about 15.5v at fast idle at the battery. When I removed the wire from the choke the voltage came back down. I'll check that out and see if I got a rise in voltage. Wouldn't think I would but I'll check it out. I hooked it to the blue wire at the ballast that goes to the regulator. Everything seems to work fine. Car runs no different and I didn't notice any kind of jump on my ammeter gage. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: RapidRobert] #1697660 11/15/14 12:09 AM 11/15/14 12:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: I dropped a short line down several inches to the blue wire switched 12V alt field wire in the loom along side the inside of the pass valve cover. people have said to tap back at the fuse block to avoid a voltage drop to the coil from tapping into the blue alt/ballast/ecu wire but with good connections/minimal voltage drops I think it is a non issue in that any draw in the system is going to lower the voltage no matter where it tapps into the system at. Unrelated, it made the elec choke on my eddy 1406 come off WAY to quick in cold weather. The car (65 dart 318) got totalled before I could figure out a solution Mine also seems to pull off too quickly on this Holley. I need to figure that situation out. Everything else seems to be fine. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: TimS] #1697661 11/15/14 09:26 AM 11/15/14 09:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: Quote: I dropped a short line down several inches to the blue wire switched 12V alt field wire in the loom along side the inside of the pass valve cover. people have said to tap back at the fuse block to avoid a voltage drop to the coil from tapping into the blue alt/ballast/ecu wire but with good connections/minimal voltage drops I think it is a non issue in that any draw in the system is going to lower the voltage no matter where it tapps into the system at. Unrelated, it made the elec choke on my eddy 1406 come off WAY to quick in cold weather. The car (65 dart 318) got totalled before I could figure out a solution Mine also seems to pull off too quickly on this Holley. I need to figure that situation out. Everything else seems to be fine. I did correct that situation of pulling off too soon. The horn plate rod needed a slight bend in it so when the choke was fully engaged when cold the plate would not shut completely. Unlike the old style carbs, there is no choke pull off to this that will pull that horn plate back about 1/4 inch to allow some air in. In this situation, you can manually wind the choke coil much further counterclockwise to truly make that adjustment of how soon it pulls the choke off. Works great now. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: TimS] #1697662 11/15/14 01:20 PM 11/15/14 01:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	yes there is no "choke pulloff" unless the piston inside there performs that function which is what I thought it did & that I was missing something cuz it came off too quick plus no pulloff function. Are you sayin you cranked the choke way rich to in effect make it come off slower but clarify how you then got the 1/4" gap opening that a regular choke is supposed to provide when it starts. Even with bending the rod if it's cranked way rich it would be closed & stay that way when it starts. What am I missing bro live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: TimS] #1697663 11/15/14 02:07 PM 11/15/14 02:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,488 Annapolis, MD, USA V Vert master
Vert master V Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,488 Annapolis, MD, USA	From the Edelbrock website: How do I hook up my electric choke (voltage)? The Electric choke on our Performer Series and AVS carburetors needs to be hooked to a "keyed" (while the key is in the on position) 12-volt power source, with a good ground. Verify there is no voltage when the key is in the off position. Do not connect the positive wire to the Ignition Coil, ballast resistor or Alternator. Vert > [img]http://i.imgur.com/JHXmM.jpg[/img]71 Barracuda vert[/url] \| Hemi idling on dyno \| Hemi Dyno pull

Re: 12V Source for Electric Choke Hookup? [Re: RapidRobert] #1697664 11/15/14 03:56 PM 11/15/14 03:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana TimS OP top fuel
TimS OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,179 Walton, Indiana	Quote: yes there is no "choke pulloff" unless the piston inside there performs that function which is what I thought it did & that I was missing something cuz it came off too quick plus no pulloff function. Are you sayin you cranked the choke way rich to in effect make it come off slower but clarify how you then got the 1/4" gap opening that a regular choke is supposed to provide when it starts. Even with bending the rod if it's cranked way rich it would be closed & stay that way when it starts. What am I missing bro I got the 1/4" gap by turning the coil more rich which also brought the fast idle paw all the way on. Then I pulled the throttle back on the carb to completely close the plate, as you mentioned. I then bent the plate rod until I got the 1/4" or so gap. When cold, it will only close the 1/4" with the choke set. At that point it made the car easy to start and drive as it is warming up. 1968 Barracuda Fastback 318-2BBL 904 2.76 Frost Blue Survivor 1970 Roadrunner 440+6 BBL 727 AT 4.10 SG Dana Blue Fire Metallic 1971 Cuda 340-4 BBL 4spd 3.91 SG Curious Yellow 1972 Barracuda 318-2 BBL 904 AT 3.23 1 Legger Tor Red/White Vinyl Top 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi AT Patriot Blue 2011 Dodge Challenger RT 5.7 Hemi 6spd 392 SG Triple Black 2014 Dodge Charger RT Max AWD 5.7 Hemi AT 305 Billet Silver

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