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Why Wescott went with a dorf #1695870
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There is a youtube interview with CWJr, at just after the 5 minute mark, he tells you WHY he went dorf.

Sad but true.

I'm going to stop now or I will spew out bad things about ma mopar and I don't want the verbal bashing. Ma has F'd up again as I have no doubt this guy has serious, mad, outrageous, God given talent. What a waste. Short sighted, idiotic, corporate ding bat...........dang I gotta stop.....


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So Dodge didn't want to "give" him anything and he didn't want to buy anything. They have 2 Pro Stockers already and I bet their days are numbered too. He is smart and going with a Ford is smart for him. Pro Stock is a N/A Funny car class already and nothing on those cars translates to selling more parts or cars for anyone. And NHRA is a political S*** storm for all involved.


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Re: Why Wescott went with a dorf [Re: madscientist] #1695873
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Personally I think he should have gone with Chebbie but who knows maybe he will do better than L. Morgan.

Re: Why Wescott went with a dorf [Re: madscientist] #1695874
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There is a youtube interview with CWJr, at just after the 5 minute mark, he tells you WHY he went dorf.

Sad but true.

I'm going to stop now or I will spew out bad things about ma mopar and I don't want the verbal bashing. Ma has F'd up again as I have no doubt this guy has serious, mad, outrageous, God given talent. What a waste. Short sighted, idiotic, corporate ding bat...........dang I gotta stop.....




he's not a die hard mopar guy..... he had a bowtie on his car for awhile....


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Re: Why Wescott went with a dorf [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1695875
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he made a major mistake. Even if he does get it to run good there are no more parts being made. He should have went with a drce3 in a gm.


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he made a major mistake. Even if he does get it to run good there are no more parts being made. He should have went with a drce3 in a gm.





I agree with Bigtime, the wescotts made a huge mistake going with that ford venture, they must have more money than we realize because they're gonna need it

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but if he goes ford that will allow him to "massage" the parts to his liking without comparison..... I think we saw what he did with the HEMI head and the disappearing valve cover rail.

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cw obviously has a plan,mopar wouldnt give him anything,but ford wouldnt give morgan so much as a free bolt.there must be a lucrative incentive hiding in there somewhere,but then again he did all the r&d for the hemi for just a few races a year and didnt get rich there either.i personally think he lives and breathes to find horsepower anywhere he can.maybe he is really bob glidden with a makeover....


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Re: Why Wescott went with a dorf [Re: dakotawilly] #1695879
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He paid for his Ford stuff , but probably less than 13 k for a block and heads.
I don't get the impression he is going to run the class full time......at least not to start.
I think he sees a challenge and is out to conquer it.
His comment about virtually everyone else in the class today was telling.

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McGaha went to a Chevy because Ma Mopar wouldn't give him anything too. Wonder what Chevy has done for him?

Sorry, but I am fairly certain Mopar doesn't freely give stuff away. They barely gave Allen Johnson anything until his program was really doing fairly well. Kinda like a bank, to get a loan you have to prove you don't need it. I watched a buddy of mine go bankrupt with a P/ST because he was sure as a lifelong Mopar racer Mopar would help him out at least with some parts. After 2 years they did give him 1 bare block and 1 pair of bare head castings.

CW went with Ford because once Cunningham passed it became pretty much worthless. Morgan said he couldn't sell his stuff last year, nobody would touch it.

CW I think will do pretty well. His claim was that too much money in a P/S program goes for the extras like flying crewmen around, huge haulers, and such. Time will tell.


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Re: Why Wescott went with a dorf [Re: slantzilla] #1695881
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All the operating obstacles of PS are dollar related. When he shows, even once that he can run with, or faster than the pack, the flood gates of money will open. Whether it's Ford, Mopar, or Toyota, who cares. He can put that port in any PS casting.

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Which port? The one from his HEMI program?

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McGaha went to a Chevy because Ma Mopar wouldn't give him anything too. Wonder what Chevy has done for him?

Sorry, but I am fairly certain Mopar doesn't freely give stuff away. They barely gave Allen Johnson anything until his program was really doing fairly well. Kinda like a bank, to get a loan you have to prove you don't need it. I watched a buddy of mine go bankrupt with a P/ST because he was sure as a lifelong Mopar racer Mopar would help him out at least with some parts. After 2 years they did give him 1 bare block and 1 pair of bare head castings.

CW went with Ford because once Cunningham passed it became pretty much worthless. Morgan said he couldn't sell his stuff last year, nobody would touch it.

CW I think will do pretty well. His claim was that too much money in a P/S program goes for the extras like flying crewmen around, huge haulers, and such. Time will tell.


" to get a loan you have to prove you don't need it" - This guy must be getting lots of help. He's been doing pretty good lately.

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Re: Why Wescott went with a dorf [Re: madscientist] #1695884
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Very interesting. I like his take on the money. There was a very smart guy on here who once said "You can race on a budget if you learn to do it yourself." This bears that out.
I always thought Roy did a lot in house for AJ and Jeggie, but maybe I'm wrong....


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McGaha went to a Chevy because Ma Mopar wouldn't give him anything too. Wonder what Chevy has done for him?

Sorry, but I am fairly certain Mopar doesn't freely give stuff away. They barely gave Allen Johnson anything until his program was really doing fairly well. Kinda like a bank, to get a loan you have to prove you don't need it. I watched a buddy of mine go bankrupt with a P/ST because he was sure as a lifelong Mopar racer Mopar would help him out at least with some parts. After 2 years they did give him 1 bare block and 1 pair of bare head castings.

CW went with Ford because once Cunningham passed it became pretty much worthless. Morgan said he couldn't sell his stuff last year, nobody would touch it.

CW I think will do pretty well. His claim was that too much money in a P/S program goes for the extras like flying crewmen around, huge haulers, and such. Time will tell.


" to get a loan you have to prove you don't need it" - This guy must be getting lots of help. He's been doing pretty good lately.




Yes they have,but they have/make some Mopar stuff that the others do not have or know how to make/build!
If he is going to Pro Stock Racing I could understand the switch to Chevy,but to ford.........


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I dont understand why it costs 13k for a block and heads that they should have available to anyone that wants to buy them anyway.

Good luck to CW.


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jegs sells the block for 9,999.00 2006 block
jegs sells the heads for 2,750.00 each 2006 heads

so 13k was discounted...LOL


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jegs sells the block for 9,999.00 2006 block
jegs sells the heads for 2,750.00 each 2006 heads

so 13k was discounted...LOL




probably like the R3 blocks they "say" they have....... NOT!

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jegs sells the block for 9,999.00 2006 block
jegs sells the heads for 2,750.00 each 2006 heads

so 13k was discounted...LOL




probably like the R3 blocks they "say" they have....... NOT!




What is with those Negative Waves....lol


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There ain't a nickels worth of difference in the Mopar head vs the Ford head. Either will make the same power with the proper work. And just because Larry Morgan couldn't make it run at the top, HARDLY means that it can't

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well to keep things interesting I hope he does find something.

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Well either,you like Charlie or not he is a guy that speaks the truth. I am glad he is speaking out about the lack of support from Mopar. Just like all the Stock and Super Stock Challengers. Rich Dicks bought them and paid everyone to build them.Just think how fast guys that really do their own work could have made them???????

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Wescott is definitly a excellent racer and engine builder, and a pretty cocky guy to, he's known for that. Personally I think he may be a little less cocky after a year or two of competing in Pro Stock, IMHO anyway.

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Wescott is definitly a excellent racer and engine builder, and a pretty cocky guy to, he's known for that. Personally I think he may be a little less cocky after a year or two of competing in Pro Stock, IMHO anyway. [/quot

He gets results! I think he is going to do OK. He does take a no nonsense approach that is pretty cool. I am no fan of the guy personally but he is worthy of a lot of respect!

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Wescott is definitly a excellent racer and engine builder, and a pretty cocky guy to, he's known for that. Personally I think he may be a little less cocky after a year or two of competing in Pro Stock, IMHO anyway.



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There ain't a nickels worth of difference in the Mopar head vs the Ford head. Either will make the same power with the proper work. And just because Larry Morgan couldn't make it run at the top, HARDLY means that it can't

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Which port? The one from his HEMI program?




I mean whatever port he's working on for the PS head.

All the top teams have great chassis/cars ect What separates them in my opinion is power, represented in MPH. Should CW run big MPH he'll get the attention of sponsors. At any rate, something good will come of it. Either PS will benefit, CW will, or both. Who knows, maybe he can supply engines, or heads at least if he's onto something.

WJ was kind enough to set up my stratus for me the other day (since i had gotten lost with it)and he and Kurt are making big power again. I'm hoping for a big come back for them, and for CW to make some noise for Ford to make it all interesting again. A privateer in PS these days makes me want to watch.

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WJ was kind enough to set up my stratus for me the other day (since i had gotten lost with it)and he and Kurt are making big power again. I'm hoping for a big come back for them, and for CW to make some noise for Ford to make it all interesting again. A privateer in PS these days makes me want to watch.




Wow thats pretty cool! Getting help from the "professor"

Darren if you don't mind me asking; what class, engine, and fuel are you going to run?
Thanks, Don

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