66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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10/30/14 06:26 PM
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I basically want a sub 3000 pound 66 wagon with the best overall handling and braking using (primarily )OEM-sourced parts and assuming 15" Max wheels (15 x 8 cop wheels most likely). Only exception may be the rear brake discs which I'll probably do a Dr diff kit.
Probably 11.75" Cordoba rotors, 340 A body .870 torsion bars (or slightly larger since I've got some fatter tires), XHD (340) springs in back with bolt on swaybars.
This is not gonna be a drag car, I want this one to drive and drive often. 5500 max RPM, 10:1 and "only" about 525 hp with crushing torque curve all through the powerband. 3.23 or 3.55 gears, shift kit. Motor is already sorted and ready to go.
So basically I want a slightly improved police type ride in a ~1000 pound lighter and better weight distributed package.
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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10/30/14 06:55 PM
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They made W2 heads for a 440 big block? Never heard of that.
Or would that be some sort of model number for the station wagon?
ONLY an .87 t-bar???? I'd go with a 1" at least and probably a 1 1/4 with a 440 big block, depending if that is really the engine size. Or a 1" min. with a 340ish small block.
If you REALLY want an .870 t-bar, then get a much heavier anti-sway bar, that way the .870 t-bar will allow for a softer/better/smoother ride, and the heavier front anti-sway bar and matched rear bar will allow for more spirited driving of the curvies, been there, done it that way.
Tom
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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10/30/14 07:58 PM
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If you are going to have a thousand pound lighter (than what?) package you need to remember one thing. Spring rates need to match corner weights.
Just because someone ran a 1" bar in a stockish weighing A body does not mean it's a good choice for one that weighs a thousand pounds less.
Not to mention that wagons have a different, usually better, weight distribution than non-wagons, that will also affect spring rates. Get everything but the suspension sorted out, then get corner weights for us so we can sort out options based on good data, not monkey see, monkey do, suggestions.
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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10/31/14 03:41 PM
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Frame connectors are the first order of business, Got the car over at Daurity's and it don't get no better than that for fab work Reconsidering maybe a .94-1.0 bar due to the fact I will have a bigger footprint than a 340 duster's little E70-14's. XHD's in the back with some bolt on swaybars should firm it up. Can somebody give me a bit more insight into the boxed lower control arms? Seems like it would be easy to bridge the LCA channels and stiffen them up a bunch without adding much extra weight. The car is going to be a really cool driver with lots of party room in the back
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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10/31/14 08:14 PM
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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10/31/14 10:48 PM
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Depending on your budget, IMO shocks are a great investment. I have the Hotchkis 1.5's on my Dart and they are a super shock. Your wagon may benefit from a B-body part # in the rear maybe? Even if you go conservative on spring rate, a shock valved with some balls will give the car a sporty,controlled and "in command" feel.
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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11/01/14 12:27 AM
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I would put 15x7 rallyes on it, would be a appropriate update.
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Re: 66 valiant Wagon 440 W2 - Best handling OEM based parts
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11/01/14 12:34 AM
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Planning on body color cop wheels with dog dishes
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