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Steel Crank??? #169248
12/17/08 01:15 PM
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I'm going to look at a couple of 440 cranks later this week. Without the obvious hammer and ring tone check, How do I tell the diff between steel and cast? The dampers have been removed.

Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: Mopar1] #169249
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The casting line on the wrist pin throws will tell
you, if it has a wide line where it looks ground on
its a forged unit.... a thin line is a cast unit
wrist pin throws(first one and last one)

Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #169250
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Some of the cast 440 cranks have the casting clock on them. They have sharper edges also.

Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: Mopar1] #169251
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The tech archives have a good photo showing the difference between cast/forged.

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/motor/8.html

Ringing is not always a good test for forged/cast, if you hold a cast crank off the floor it will ring when struck.


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Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: John_Kunkel] #169252
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Castings will also usually have raised numbers time/date etc info. Forgings with have any info stamped in.

Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: Scott Carl] #169253
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Thanks for the info guys!




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Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #169254
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Quote:

The casting line on the wrist pin throws will tell
you, if it has a wide line where it looks ground on
its a forged unit.... a thin line is a cast unit
wrist pin throws(first one and last one)




times have changed, I remember when the wrist pin was on the piston end of the conecting rod.

Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: bboogieart] #169255
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Quote:

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The casting line on the wrist pin throws will tell
you, if it has a wide line where it looks ground on
its a forged unit.... a thin line is a cast unit
wrist pin throws(first one and last one)




times have changed, I remember when the wrist pin was on the piston end of the conecting rod.





While I'm sure Mr. P-Body knows what he's talking about, I was thrown by that as well.... never heard of wrist-pins on a crank (???) "Wrist pin" is a term that is synomymos with "piston pin", isn't it?

Either way, I always have seen cast cranks as having very sharp, square edges, while forged cranks have more rounded edges.


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Re: Steel Crank??? [Re: StealthWedge67] #169256
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The casting line on the wrist pin throws will tell
you, if it has a wide line where it looks ground on
its a forged unit.... a thin line is a cast unit
wrist pin throws(first one and last one)




times have changed, I remember when the wrist pin was on the piston end of the conecting rod.





While I'm sure Mr. P-Body knows what he's talking about, I was thrown by that as well.... never heard of wrist-pins on a crank (???) "Wrist pin" is a term that is synomymos with "piston pin", isn't it?

Either way, I always have seen cast cranks as having very sharp, square edges, while forged cranks have more rounded edges.




Sorry about that... my error







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