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5.7 Turbo in a A-body #1688917
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Ok, I don't even Know where to begin, I am in the process of putting a 5.7 hemi in my 72 dart/scamp with a S480 turbo.
Everyone has seen these write ups and articles in the magazine about junk yard 5.7 hemi boosted makes ***HP…… awesome and sounds like fun right, not so much…… as Ray a great friend of mine (SixPackgut) and I found out last night growing gray hairs its more than just that.

You don’t ever see them putting these motors in cars and the wild exhaust is run however which way it could run to connect while sitting on an Engine Dyno.

Note if this was not a BOOSTED application then there wouldn’t be a problem at all and fits really good.


My experience: 5.7 hemi out of 03 Ram. (Also trying to run Exhaust Forward to connect to turbo) The SRT manifolds are too BIG AND BULKY with or without a Tubular front end…. No room (ZERO)

Also Engine/motor plate isn’t going to happen….

Now there is the option of spending $2k+ on a set of custom headers. Last plan….and I mean VERY LAST OPTION for me

So I took the stock truck manifolds and swapped them to the opposite side of the engine, (the ports will line up as long as you don’t flip the manifolds from top to bottom (Upside down) with the stock heads the two center ports bolts will not line up (can get them drilled) the driver’s side manifold comes out straight out as the passenger side has a kick to it going away from the motor towards the frame. With using the spooled type mounts made for the gen3 hemi the passenger side motor mount is bolted and gets in the way of the oil filter so that has to be relocated, (not a problem if this was not a boosted motor and exhaust manifolds where ran the other way) but the passenger side manifold runs very close to the where the 2 oil fittings are going to be ran to do a remote oil system.

I will be trying to set the motor into place to even see if this will work in the next couple of days. But this looks like the closes thing to making this work. I will get pictures soon to show a little better of how tight and no room there is.

*****NOTE TO SELF this isn’t a LS going into a mustang, this is an Over grown Elephant trying to fit into a trashcan.


I hope this HELPS..... and I will try to keep this updated

Thanks.


Please chime in on this, input,pics, suggestions.....

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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688918
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Pics. of the exhaust manifolds on the Engine.

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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688919
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That's why turbo builds can get tricky and expensive... I think Summit and Jegs sell a kit you piece togther (like a lego kit for headers) You lay it all out and send it back and they make a set based on your design. I think for a v8 it is like $800. If/when I go w/ turbo(s) that is the route I'll be going most likely.


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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688920
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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688921
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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688922
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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688923
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I hope yall can figure something out. I'm sure it'll fly when yall get done w/ it. This is why I like nitrous. Everyone keeps saying I need to turbo my car, but the motor barely fits in there like it is, lol. Much easier to hang some solenoids and put a bottle in the trunk. Then again, I'm happy being overweight and slow too, so...

If I can help out in any way, just give me a call.

How would a set of upside down shorty headers fit?


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688924
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Here is a Pic of the Oil lines Im talking about that come close to the Manifolds, still not sure if it will work and clear manifolds

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688925
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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1688926
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I hope yall can figure something out. I'm sure it'll fly when yall get done w/ it. This is why I like nitrous. Everyone keeps saying I need to turbo my car, but the motor barely fits in there like it is, lol. Much easier to hang some solenoids and put a bottle in the trunk. Then again, I'm happy being overweight and slow too, so...

If I can help out in any way, just give me a call.

How would a set of upside down shorty headers fit?





Lol chip, First time I saw your car I was dumb founded about how tight it was in there.....crazy! and yes your car is over weight but the car isnt slow one bit.

The shorty headers wouldn't work because the heads are at such a angle they bolt more on the bottom than the side.

Thanks Chip

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1688927
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Mr. Yuck, thanks for the input. that is always a option.
Thank you sir.

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: KRYPTONITE] #1688928
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I hope yall can figure something out. I'm sure it'll fly when yall get done w/ it. This is why I like nitrous. Everyone keeps saying I need to turbo my car, but the motor barely fits in there like it is, lol. Much easier to hang some solenoids and put a bottle in the trunk. Then again, I'm happy being overweight and slow too, so...

If I can help out in any way, just give me a call.

How would a set of upside down shorty headers fit?





Lol chip, First time I saw your car I was dumb founded about how tight it was in there.....crazy! and yes your car is over weight but the car isnt slow one bit.

The shorty headers wouldn't work because the heads are at such a angle they bolt more on the bottom than the side.

Thanks Chip



OK, I knew they bolted up kinda from the bottom like my Gen2 does. I wasn't sure how wide the motor is and how much room is at the inner fenders. Now that I look at the pics a little better, I don't reckon a shorty has a chance of clearing.

If I think of anything else that won't work, I'll let you know.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1688929
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yes sir, Ray and I messured the LS vs the Hemi and I do believe if the hemi was open from the top I could drop the LS into it..lol crazy wide.


Thanks Chip

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1688930
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cut the factory flange off the manifolds and weld on v-band clamps
be prepared to cut up the engine compartment was looking at this option on big block a-body but decided against for space and didn't want to cut up a factory big block car

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: superhog88] #1688931
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cut the factory flange off the manifolds and weld on v-band clamps
be prepared to cut up the engine compartment was looking at this option on big block a-body but decided against for space and didn't want to cut up a factory big block car




yeah I can't imagine doing a turbo anything w/o some and
have aftermarket "rack" style k-frames come down in price yet?

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: superhog88] #1688932
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Yea....i don't want to cut this car up at all.

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1688933
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Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1688934
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yes, it might the biggest problem is the Steering shaft,grear box,and the inner fenders .


I will know more when I set the motor down in there.

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: superhog88] #1688935
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there are a few ls turbo swaps where they used a rear facing drivers side manifold looped the exhaust down like a normal y-pipe but brought it up and into the back of a forward facing manifold on the passenger side

Re: 5.7 Turbo in a A-body [Re: superhog88] #1688936
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Like superhog stated, could u run the manifolds normally then join them in a y pipe and send the pipe back up to front for the turbo? In one of the other Gen III threads it mentions milling .125" off the flange of SRT8 manifolds to get them to fit

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