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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: 68roadrunner] #1674562
09/21/14 03:24 PM
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I've used a 4 inch spacer with good results on the dyno.

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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: 440Jim] #1674563
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BMBBR5 Roller Cam 283 on a 115



Can you give us a little more info on that cam?
LSA 115 (wider than I expected)
Intake/Exhaust at 0.050" 283?
Lift with the 1.6 ratio?

I bought your BMBB 3R from another racer for my 540 CID, 345CNC.
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The big tubes lost quite a bit of torque for a few horsepower gain. I would say the smaller tubes are a better choice
Keith


I liked the straight 2.125" headers. They made more torque and the horsepower pulled to the top of the pull (7400rpm). That surprised me with 572 CID. Perhaps the cam and 3X intake?




I am willing to bet the exhaust duration at .050 is over 300 degrees with that wide of a lsa. That would provide enough overlap in the "fifth cycle". It would also keep the other three opening and closing points close to what other cams have with less exhaust duration and narrower lsa. The exhaust opening point is the one that would move around( open earlier) if I am right.


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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: dvw] #1674564
09/21/14 04:18 PM
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TTI Headers 2.125 x 3.5



I know it wasn't tested here, but you have had previous experience with the Indy cross ram. Whats your guess if this motor were equipped with the Indy cross ram as far as peak torque and overall power numbers?



The last engine I dyno tested with the Indy X ram was my 512 with Brodix B1BS heads that I had in my Coronet it made 880hp and ran 9.0s at 3400 lbs

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: gregsdart] #1674565
09/21/14 04:21 PM
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BMBBR5 Roller Cam 283 on a 115



Can you give us a little more info on that cam?
LSA 115 (wider than I expected)
Intake/Exhaust at 0.050" 283?
Lift with the 1.6 ratio?

I bought your BMBB 3R from another racer for my 540 CID, 345CNC.
Quote:

The big tubes lost quite a bit of torque for a few horsepower gain. I would say the smaller tubes are a better choice
Keith


I liked the straight 2.125" headers. They made more torque and the horsepower pulled to the top of the pull (7400rpm). That surprised me with 572 CID. Perhaps the cam and 3X intake?




I am willing to bet the exhaust duration at .050 is over 300 degrees with that wide of a lsa. That would provide enough overlap in the "fifth cycle". It would also keep the other three opening and closing points close to what other cams have with less exhaust duration and narrower lsa. The exhaust opening point is the one that would move around( open earlier) if I am right.



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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674566
09/22/14 08:22 AM
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BMBBR5 Roller Cam 283 on a 115



Can you give us a little more info on that cam?
LSA 115 (wider than I expected)
Intake/Exhaust at 0.050" 283?
Lift with the 1.6 ratio?

I bought your BMBB 3R from another racer for my 540 CID, 345CNC.
Quote:

The big tubes lost quite a bit of torque for a few horsepower gain. I would say the smaller tubes are a better choice
Keith


I liked the straight 2.125" headers. They made more torque and the horsepower pulled to the top of the pull (7400rpm). That surprised me with 572 CID. Perhaps the cam and 3X intake?




I am willing to bet the exhaust duration at .050 is over 300 degrees with that wide of a lsa. That would provide enough overlap in the "fifth cycle". It would also keep the other three opening and closing points close to what other cams have with less exhaust duration and narrower lsa. The exhaust opening point is the one that would move around( open earlier) if I am right.






That surprises me. The overlap is seven degrees less than the average I have seen on six different grinds, all recommended for my 528. The lift with a 1.6 rocker (pictured) is a lot less than I expected too.


8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674567
09/23/14 11:19 PM
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BMBBR5 Roller Cam 283 on a 115



Thanks for the cam card.
Comparing it to your 3R cam I bought (used) it is 4 degrees longer duration, 3 degrees wider LSA, and the same lobe lift. That is in line with going from a 540 to 572 with your builds. And with that user's 1.6 ratio it comes out to .754/.722 valve lift.

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674568
09/24/14 12:51 PM
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If you don't mind me asking...
What kind of flow numbers did the heads produce?


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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: 1320Dart] #1674569
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If you don't mind me asking...
What kind of flow numbers did the heads produce?




I opted to not have them flow tested they are OOTB -1 345s (but I did have them port matched them)

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Wv68charger] #1674570
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Ok thank you.


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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Chuck@Best_Machine] #1674571
09/24/14 07:17 PM
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GO BUCKS !!!!!!!
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Nice build Good thing you are upgrading the chassis your going to need it

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: 340RICK] #1674572
09/24/14 07:57 PM
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Like that LSA

Great build but come on I wanna see what it is going into


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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: 340RICK] #1674573
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Nice build Good thing you are upgrading the chassis your going to need it




LOL Thanks Rick,
That chassis needed upgraded since the last time it was touched....

It's in good hand now though

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Al_Alguire] #1674574
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Like that LSA

Great build but come on I wanna see what it is going into




Here ya go Al

Nothing like your rides!

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Wv68charger] #1674575
09/24/14 09:42 PM
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Very nice. Cannot wait to hear how she runs.


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Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Al_Alguire] #1674576
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Very nice. Cannot wait to hear how she runs.




I just can't wait to get back to the track!

Re: 572 Wedge, 440-1 345CNC Bracket Engine. Dyno Results [Re: Wv68charger] #1674577
09/25/14 12:29 AM
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Holt will make the chassis work, he is the man on suspension


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