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Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 #1673515 09/18/14 05:20 AM 09/18/14 05:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA 3 375inStroke OP Special needs person
375inStroke OP Special needs person 3 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA	I guess this is a C-Body. Any luck on retrofitting discs onto this car. They really are pitiful. The Disc-o-Tech article says it works back to '65. What's different? This is my first C-Body, and it's really different under there. Last edited by 375inStroke; 09/18/14 05:21 AM.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: 375inStroke] #1673516 09/18/14 10:08 AM 09/18/14 10:08 AM
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skicker "The Champ" Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,102 Western Md.	A 64 880 is a B Body. C bodies Started in the 65 model year. As far as a disc kit I used the entire knuckle assemblies off of an 87 Gran Fury on my 70 Satellite. I actually bought them for my 65 but opted to go Wilwood instead. They interchange 62-72 depending on sway bar applications. I'm not positive but I think the Diplomat Knuckles 81 and up are they same. 8273701-LFsuspension.jpg (66 downloads) ...FAFO...

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: skicker] #1673517 09/18/14 10:20 AM 09/18/14 10:20 AM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Quote: A 64 880 is a B Body. C bodies Started in the 65 model year. As far as a disc kit I used the entire knuckle assemblies off of an 87 Gran Fury on my 70 Satellite. I actually bought them for my 65 but opted to go Wilwood instead. They interchange 62-72 depending on sway bar applications. I'm not positive but I think the Diplomat Knuckles 81 and up are they same. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but an 880 is a full size ie Chrysler platform not a B-body. That being said, I think M-body type spindles can be coaxed into service. IIRC Therocks has done this swap on a 62 300 which is the same basic car. Kevin

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: Twostick] #1673518 09/18/14 10:30 AM 09/18/14 10:30 AM
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skicker "The Champ" Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 5,102 Western Md.	Twostick is right it is the larger Chrysler platform and not a B Body..my bad. I was thinking since the C body platform started in 65 that the prior years were all B Body. I forgot about the larger Chrysler cars. ...FAFO...

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: skicker] #1673519 09/18/14 10:35 AM 09/18/14 10:35 AM
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moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	A 1964 880 is a C-body. 1965 was the first year for a Plymouth C-body. 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: Twostick] #1673520 09/18/14 10:38 AM 09/18/14 10:38 AM
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Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,671	yeah, it is a full size, not a b-body. if some one used m-body spindles on a 62 300, then it should work on the 880. but I would wait to hear back from rocky to be sure. that also means any of the b-body swaps should work too. I didn't own mine long enough to try for a disc swap so I don't know what will work. you can do a little research on part numbers for the upper and lower ball joints and see what interchanges.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: moparmarks] #1673521 09/18/14 02:09 PM 09/18/14 02:09 PM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Quote: A 1964 880 is a C-body. 1965 was the first year for a Plymouth C-body. Half right. 65 was the first year for a Plymouth C-body. Also the first year for Chrysler and Dodge. Anything 64 and earlier has no letter designation as far as I know. They are just referred to as full size. Kevin

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: Twostick] #1673522 09/18/14 02:25 PM 09/18/14 02:25 PM
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375inStroke OP Special needs person 3 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA	The upper ball joints are the same as everything later that used the larger ball joint, so that's good. The lowers are different, and don't know if I should try the A-Body spindles or the taller B-Body ones. It's so different under there. The torsion adjuster is in back, not in the control arm. The upper control arm attaches to the crossmember, not the fender well. The shock is like 10" long and mounts inside a tube welded to the crossmember. There's almost no steering column. The steering box is right against the firewall. With all that, I don't see anything that would stop newer discs from bolting up. I don't know about anything unforeseen like geometry changes, bumpsteer, things like that.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: 375inStroke] #1673523 09/18/14 03:06 PM 09/18/14 03:06 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,036 Oregon	Disc brake swaps are a very common topic over on the C body Dry Dock forum. You should be able to find most everything known on the subject with a little bit of searching.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: AndyF] #1673524 09/18/14 05:50 PM 09/18/14 05:50 PM
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375inStroke OP Special needs person 3 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA	The Dry Dock gives conversion info going back to '65, and doesn't say why. I'll dig through further, though. Thanks. I appreciate all help.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: 375inStroke] #1673525 09/18/14 06:03 PM 09/18/14 06:03 PM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	Because nothing before 65 is a C-body. Wrong forum for an 880. Kevin

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: Twostick] #1673526 09/18/14 09:33 PM 09/18/14 09:33 PM
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moparmarks I Live Here Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,494 Western Colorado High Desert	Quote: Quote: A 1964 880 is a C-body. 1965 was the first year for a Plymouth C-body. Half right. 65 was the first year for a Plymouth C-body. Also the first year for Chrysler and Dodge. Anything 64 and earlier has no letter designation as far as I know. They are just referred to as full size. Kevin I thought the letter designation started in 62??? 72 Satellite Sebring Plus 440, 72 Dart 5.9 4-spd, 68 Valiant, 73 W200, 78 D100 sb, 78 D200, 98 DAKOTA, . Moparmarks Parts & Restorations Desert Mopar Metal Grand Jct. CO 970-261-7039 http://moparmark.com/ motormangj@gmail.com

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: moparmarks] #1673527 09/18/14 10:49 PM 09/18/14 10:49 PM
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Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,562 Downtown Roebuck Ont	For A and B-bodies perhaps but C-body didn't start until 65. Kevin

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: Twostick] #1673528 09/18/14 11:06 PM 09/18/14 11:06 PM
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poorboy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,563 Freeport IL USA	My son's 57 full size Dodge has an aftermarket disc brake kit that uses the original spindle and adds a plate & a spacer for the bearings like they do with the older cars. We haven't done the complete swap yet, but the car's original spindles are pretty tall, I doubt an M body spindle has enough height. Gene

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: poorboy] #1673529 09/18/14 11:53 PM 09/18/14 11:53 PM
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moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,406 north of coder	although the 880 is considered to be a full size car[ C body or not], it uses the B body upper ball joint [ moog # k772 ] the lower ball joint is the screw in moog # k719. this is the same taper as the B body lower joint. therefore, use the standard conversion spindle of your choice, but you will have to use your lower spindle arm or the lower spindle arm from a late B or R body [diplomat, st. regis, etc.] the steering stop from said later lower arm may, or may not need trimmed or tweeked.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: 375inStroke] #1673530 09/19/14 02:22 AM 09/19/14 02:22 AM
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demon super stock D Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,179 Canada	All 1960-64 full size Mopars can have Aspen/ Volare or 5th Ave, Diplomat disc brakes swapped on. Go to The Forward Look forum for more info on the full size early cars

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: demon] #1673531 09/19/14 11:58 AM 09/19/14 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio	It depends though.My kids 62 300 takes B body joints.The same 62 New Yorker takes the larger C body type.Went thru it.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: therocks] #1673532 09/19/14 02:40 PM 09/19/14 02:40 PM
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dynamite pro stock D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,444 NEW JERSEY	Just make it easy for yourself ..DR Diff has kits in stock..don't know for that C body but for my 64 B body everything needed was $ 440.00 8274927-jack1.jpg (63 downloads)

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: therocks] #1673533 09/20/14 09:44 AM 09/20/14 09:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,406 north of coder moparx "Butt Crack Bob"
moparx "Butt Crack Bob" Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 19,406 north of coder	Quote: It depends though.My kids 62 300 takes B body joints.The same 62 New Yorker takes the larger C body type.Went thru it.Rocky rocky is correct. the 62-64 300,s take a moog k772 upper joint and a k 719 lower joint. both of these are threaded joints with the B body taper. the 60-62 newyorker takes a k772 upper & a k727 lower joint which are also threaded, but are the C body taper.

Re: Need info on swapping disc brakes onto a '64 Dodge 880 [Re: moparx] #1673534 09/20/14 11:55 AM 09/20/14 11:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio	I know we went thru it when we ordered the joints for the 62 300.They sent the big ones.Had to send them back and get the smaller ones.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

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