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epoxy primer? #1672652 09/17/14 03:19 PM 09/17/14 03:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin bigblockbryan OP super stock
bigblockbryan OP super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin	okay guys i stripped my car down to bare metal know hopefully in the next week or so i will spray the car in primer heres my question do i have to put primer sealer on right away.Or can it wait a few weeks because i do have to put some filler on the car in a few spots.When you work 60 hours a week theres some days i just dont get out in the shop to work on it as much as id like too.Also what the best thing to wipe the car down with before i spray my cat its pretty much 95 percent bare metal at the moment. 8272984-10688124_10152206810396082_9190452601389000873_o.jpg (153 downloads)

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: bigblockbryan] #1672653 09/17/14 03:32 PM 09/17/14 03:32 PM
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lynchroad member L Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 2 Sweden	Epoxy primer before filler, in my opinion

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: lynchroad] #1672654 09/17/14 03:42 PM 09/17/14 03:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin bigblockbryan OP super stock
bigblockbryan OP super stock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 793 United states wisconsin	that was my plan, then should I do another layer of primer over filler so it would be epoxy primer do my filler then maybe more epoxy primer.

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: bigblockbryan] #1672655 09/17/14 05:01 PM 09/17/14 05:01 PM
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HemiRick master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,848 Memphis	filler sticks fine to epoxy primer, epoxy prime do body work and then epoxy again to seal in bondo. Then prime paint. Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: HemiRick] #1672656 09/17/14 05:36 PM 09/17/14 05:36 PM
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Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: filler sticks fine to epoxy primer, epoxy prime do body work and then epoxy again to seal in bondo. Then prime paint. Exactly, regular epoxy primer first, then bondo and body work. Then you mix the epoxy primer with more/slower reducer in it and seal your body work. Then 2K primer over that and you block sand with the 2K primer. Then you you seal the 2K primer with epoxy mixed as a sealer again right before color.

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: Challenger 1] #1672657 09/17/14 08:01 PM 09/17/14 08:01 PM
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herkamer pro stock Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,305 Lakewood, Colorado	FYI, there are direct to metal fillers. I use the Evercoat Quantum One and will pass the 500 hr salt spray test. No need to epoxy prime first, it is fortified with epoxy. http://www.evercoat.com/productDetail.aspx?pID=294 Time and materials are money... Matt 69 Dart Swinger 340 83 W350, Megasquirted with 46RH Old news: 72 Demon street/race mobile Latest: 70 Duster backhalf car and even more

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: herkamer] #1672658 09/17/14 09:16 PM 09/17/14 09:16 PM
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Telvis mopar Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 464 KY	Epoxy primer first That's King Weenie to you!

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: Telvis] #1672659 09/18/14 08:35 AM 09/18/14 08:35 AM
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mopar383 top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,469 NE Ohio	I agree epoxy first. Then filler ( I just can't call it bondo lol ) Then epoxy over that again 81 Dodge Ram My dad bought brand new... my 17 year old sons project Jeep Wrangler Unlimited .....my wife's baby Durango....my DD Caravan...an awesome parts hauler 72 Dart

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: Challenger 1] #1672660 09/18/14 03:03 PM 09/18/14 03:03 PM
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375inStroke Special needs person 3 Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,545 Seattle, WA	Quote: Exactly, regular epoxy primer first, then bondo and body work. Then you mix the epoxy primer with more/slower reducer in it and seal your body work. Then 2K primer over that and you block sand with the 2K primer. Then you you seal the 2K primer with epoxy mixed as a sealer again right before color. One needs epoxy between filler and 2K primer?

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: 375inStroke] #1672661 09/18/14 03:15 PM 09/18/14 03:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Exactly, regular epoxy primer first, then bondo and body work. Then you mix the epoxy primer with more/slower reducer in it and seal your body work. Then 2K primer over that and you block sand with the 2K primer. Then you you seal the 2K primer with epoxy mixed as a sealer again right before color. One needs epoxy between filler and 2K primer? Yes it's best.

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: bigblockbryan] #1672662 09/19/14 12:40 AM 09/19/14 12:40 AM
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4boxers4 super stock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 957 Heart of Ohio	filler on metal that has been prepped is how I do it. Persistance is omnipotent Durability Engineer, Chair and Couch division...

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: 4boxers4] #1672663 09/19/14 08:39 AM 09/19/14 08:39 AM
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jughed pro stock J Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,229 In The Hills	can seam sealer be applied over epoxy primer???

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: jughed] #1672664 09/19/14 12:01 PM 09/19/14 12:01 PM
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Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I always go epoxy first. I've stripped putty/regular primer off cars many times and they almost always have rust under both. Neither will seal the metal like epoxy or etch primer. It doesn't have to be expensive either, I use kirker I get labeled as summit or eastwood for under 100 for 2 sprayable gallons. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: jughed] #1672665 09/19/14 10:14 PM 09/19/14 10:14 PM
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5wndwcpe pro stock Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,528 Southeast PA	Quote: can seam sealer be applied over epoxy primer??? Yes. 1968 GTX hardtop 1968 Sport Satellite Convertible 383/4spd 1933 Plymouth coupe 2002 Ram 2500 oil burner 4x4 2015 Grand Cherokee 2013 Challenger 1957 Chrysler Saratoga Man...I need a bigger freakin' garage.

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: 5wndwcpe] #1672666 09/20/14 12:59 AM 09/20/14 12:59 AM
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dennismopar73 top fuel D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,177 ill	I never put a 2k primer over a catalyzed product a chemical reaction Can and does happen

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: HemiRick] #1672667 09/20/14 01:02 AM 09/20/14 01:02 AM
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Adam71Charger pro stock A Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,521 Tacoma, Washington USA	Quote: filler sticks fine to epoxy primer, epoxy prime do body work and then epoxy again to seal in bondo. Then prime paint. x2

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: Adam71Charger] #1672668 09/21/14 09:29 PM 09/21/14 09:29 PM
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GeorgeH member G Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 45 Delaware	Most epoxy primers I have used require an etch primer first as they are not DTM primers. Check the tech sheets for whichever brand you use to see if its necessary.

Re: epoxy primer? [Re: GeorgeH] #1672669 09/21/14 10:27 PM 09/21/14 10:27 PM
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Crazy68Dart pro stock Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,212 Canton, Ohio	This is completely irrelevant to this post, but what do brand new cars have on them from the factory? How many coats and of what exactly? 383, Hemi 4-Speed, AlterKtion, D60

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