Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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OK, as some know, I just put a 426 Hemi in the Daytona with TTI headers and power steering.... Well........ I think I have a starter going south and it is freakin' brand new.... It acts like it is too far advanced, but it isn't. Then, it'll work fine.... I will start off with putting another new starter relay... But, in the event that it ISN'T the relay, what is the difficulty with removing the mini-starter with a 426 Hemi with TTI headers in a '69 B-body ( Daytona in this case ). As the world turns, I just go for the ride..............
TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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Robert, Hot or cold. Like last night, it was cold start. Turn the key and it is like "click", then do it again then it engages, but barely turns. Do it again then it will rotate. I'll probably make a video, too hard to try and articulate in writing..
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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Dont articulate. (1) slo charge the batt up & have it load tested if there is any doubt of it's condition or easier yet just drop in another known good batt. (2) clean ALL large cable connections/terminals including the ground path (3) jump from starter relay batt terminal to the nearby brown wire "sol" terminal (4) lastly bite the bullet & pull that starter
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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Robert. All components are new. I purchased new cables, battery and starter. The relay might be foriegn junk, not sure....... But yes, the thought of taking the battery out and doing a load test passed my mind ( had better not, dang battery is brand new )...
Thanks to taking the time to respond....... Not looking forward to the potential of pulling the starter...... But, if I have to, I have to....
TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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Make sure there isn't any paint under the ground cable connection to the block. I have run across this in new engine builds and it will not ground well enough.
This problem has slowly accorded over the last couple of days..... But, to your point. Prior to me detailing the motor, I made sure the block was bare before bolting on the negative battery cable......
TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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I'd say the motor has to come out to put a starter on, the header has to come off and this means the motor has to come out. I have my Hemi on the floor now. Same combo of parts.
Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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Been thinking over lunch... If I remove the driver's side lower control arm and torsion bar, I might be able to create enough "wiggle" room.. It would be a LOT easier to remove one lower control arm and torsion bar than a complete motor......
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Re: Fiddle sticks !!!! Starter on a Hemi and headers..
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I put a known good battery and it did the same thing..... Sounds like a dang Chevy starter that's not shimmed correctly..... It occurred when the motor was cold, not warm.... I'll change out the starter relay next, have a NOS one showing up soon, but my gut says starter......
TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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