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squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED IT !!! #1657231
08/10/14 11:04 PM
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I have no idea why but just turning the steering wheel side to side there is this strange groan /squeak coming from inside the column..Ive never torn apart a column..Is there something inside in need of grease or a bearing or bushing of some kind?? Please help !!!

Last edited by 72N96RR; 08/15/14 12:12 AM.

1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..

A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..

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If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657232
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There is a bearing at the top of the column under the steering wheel.

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: stumpy] #1657233
08/11/14 12:15 AM
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There is a bearing at the top of the column under the steering wheel.




Is it metal or nylon or what and who would carry such a part??


1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..

A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..

If you love someone set them free..
If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657234
08/11/14 03:42 AM
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Just try rublicating it first.


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Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657235
08/11/14 04:46 AM
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On engine side of firewall, try shooting a shot of WD 40 up into the steering column/shaft. The straw attachment on the WD 40 can makes this a bit easier.

Simpler to try this first before pulling steering wheel to lube upper bearing.

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657236
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There is a bearing at the top of the column under the steering wheel.




Is it metal or nylon or what and who would carry such a part??




It's a thin roller thrust beating. It likely needs a little lube.


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Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: Sxrxrnr] #1657237
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On engine side of firewall, try shooting a shot of WD 40 up into the steering column/shaft. The straw attachment on the WD 40 can makes this a bit easier.

Simpler to try this first before pulling steering wheel to lube upper bearing.




The object of trying WD 40 from the engine side is not to lube upper bearing. A squeak can develop at the lower end if the steering shaft,,,the noise then is carried up the column and gives the appearance of an upper bearing problem.

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: Sxrxrnr] #1657238
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Quote:

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On engine side of firewall, try shooting a shot of WD 40 up into the steering column/shaft. The straw attachment on the WD 40 can makes this a bit easier.

Simpler to try this first before pulling steering wheel to lube upper bearing.




The object of trying WD 40 from the engine side is not to lube upper bearing. A squeak can develop at the lower end if the steering shaft,,,the noise then is carried up the column and gives the appearance of an upper bearing problem.




I was afraid to squirt anything anywhere just because of the wiring inside..Dont want to cause addition issues or a meltdown..
Thanks for the info guys!!


1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..

A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..

If you love someone set them free..
If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: That AMC Guy] #1657239
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Just try rublicating it first.




Is this a new product?? Or a procedure???

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657240
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On engine side of firewall, try shooting a shot of WD 40 up into the steering column/shaft. The straw attachment on the WD 40 can makes this a bit easier.

Simpler to try this first before pulling steering wheel to lube upper bearing.




The object of trying WD 40 from the engine side is not to lube upper bearing. A squeak can develop at the lower end if the steering shaft,,,the noise then is carried up the column and gives the appearance of an upper bearing problem.




I was afraid to squirt anything anywhere just because of the wiring inside..Dont want to cause addition issues or a meltdown..
Thanks for the info guys!!




There is no wiring at this point in the column. Wiring from turn signal and ignition switch exits several inches up the column from this point. WD 40 is considered benign,,,in fact is sometimes used to reinvigorate wiring, particularly ignition wiring that has gotten water soaked.

Even odds that's where your squeak is. Let us know when you find it and fix it,,,heaven knows that I have a bunch that I would like to find too. It's a Mopar after all.

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: Sxrxrnr] #1657241
08/14/14 10:11 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

On engine side of firewall, try shooting a shot of WD 40 up into the steering column/shaft. The straw attachment on the WD 40 can makes this a bit easier.

Simpler to try this first before pulling steering wheel to lube upper bearing.




The object of trying WD 40 from the engine side is not to lube upper bearing. A squeak can develop at the lower end if the steering shaft,,,the noise then is carried up the column and gives the appearance of an upper bearing problem.




I was afraid to squirt anything anywhere just because of the wiring inside..Dont want to cause addition issues or a meltdown..
Thanks for the info guys!!




There is no wiring at this point in the column. Wiring from turn signal and ignition switch exits several inches up the column from this point. WD 40 is considered benign,,,in fact is sometimes used to reinvigorate wiring, particularly ignition wiring that has gotten water soaked.

Even odds that's where your squeak is. Let us know when you find it and fix it,,,heaven knows that I have a bunch that I would like to find too. It's a Mopar after all.




Squirted WD-40 up the collar under the hood and the groan and squeeks ARE NO MORE !!!!!! I appreciate all the great advice from ALL of you...


1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..

A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..

If you love someone set them free..
If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657242
08/15/14 12:15 AM
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NOW I need to figure out why my beep beep horn is not working..installed a brand new one..nothing..


1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..

A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..

If you love someone set them free..
If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! [Re: Dcuda69] #1657243
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Just try rublicating it first.




Is this a new product?? Or a procedure???




I must admit, I can't take the credit for inventing the word 'rublicate'. I heard Freiburger say it and I liked it. Now it's part of my vocabulation.


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Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657244
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NOW I need to figure out why my beep beep horn is not working..installed a brand new one..nothing..




Horn relay.


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Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657245
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NOW I need to figure out why my beep beep horn is not working..installed a brand new one..nothing..




Pull horn button. Ensure that wire that you see is connected at tab at the top. And then pull(lightly please) on wire to ensure that is properly connected to horn slip ring.

If not connected at that end, then the fix gets a bit more complicated and expensive. You can guess how it is that I know this.

Could also be relay as noted, or the horn grounding wire at the connector where it enters into the steering column.

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: Sxrxrnr] #1657246
08/17/14 02:28 AM
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NOW I need to figure out why my beep beep horn is not working..installed a brand new one..nothing..




Pull horn button. Ensure that wire that you see is connected at tab at the top. And then pull(lightly please) on wire to ensure that is properly connected to horn slip ring.

If not connected at that end, then the fix gets a bit more complicated and expensive. You can guess how it is that I know this.

Could also be relay as noted, or the horn grounding wire at the connector where it enters into the steering column.




The steering wheel has three separate horn buttons..


1972 Road Runner / GTX 440 4spd Dana 3.54 Just about to turn 26K original miles..

A boat, a GMC truck, some Craftsman Tools, LOTS of Zombie Protection, and a few Goldfish..

If you love someone set them free..
If they come back it means nobody else wanted them either..!!
Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: 72N96RR] #1657247
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The steering wheel has three separate horn buttons..




As it should...


(Start by seeing if yer getting power to the horn(s))...

Re: squeeking is making me carazy.!!! FIXED!!!!!!!! [Re: RSNOMO] #1657248
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The steering wheel has three separate horn buttons..




As it should...


(Start by seeing if yer getting power to the horn(s))...




Agree...also if fresh paint, check the horns have good ground to metal.







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