Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
#1655258
08/05/14 12:10 PM
08/05/14 12:10 PM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 133 Parsippany, New Jersey
340challconvert
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 133
Parsippany, New Jersey
|
Has anybody ordered the Learn Auto Body & Paint Online Membership Home Study? The creator, Tony Bandalos has videos, ads and Utube testimonials all over the place. Prices for his system range from 99 to 199 dollars. Does this program have any merit? He has what he calls VIP Membership. I would like to have a systamatic tool to learn some techniques. Is this a scam? Is it worth the money for the information? Feedback appreciated. 340challconvert
1970 A-66 340 Challenger convertible
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: Finoke]
#1655260
08/05/14 03:27 PM
08/05/14 03:27 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,668 South Dakota
hotairballoonpilot
master
|
master
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,668
South Dakota
|
Who? Personally I spent 2 years on high school learning the trade only to go on to Vo tech to relearn what the instructor in HS taught us. Now been out of Vo tech since 1994 and have taught my self more with experience. You will only learn so much from that. I'd go to a junk yard ask if they have any ruined fenders that you could practice on. Easier to mess up a junk fender than a good fender for an older car. Play around with fixing dents, mud work, priming, painting, buffing.
Contact Me about AMD Prices
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: 340challconvert]
#1655262
08/08/14 01:14 AM
08/08/14 01:14 AM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 133 Parsippany, New Jersey
340challconvert
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 133
Parsippany, New Jersey
|
Thank you for your thoughts on this. My mechanical skills are stronger then my body work and fabrication skills. I need to improve in the body work area. I started looking at the Kevin Tetz (Eastwood videos) and Pete (with the graphic language) on DYI autoschool videos on Utube Even though it is piece meal information, it gives me some basic techniques. Best way to learn seems to be to just start practicing. I just wanted to get some pointers first. Most of the work I need to do is body dings and one section of the quarter panel that was very poorly repaired by a "friend" back in the 80's. I will need to spot weld two lower quarter panel patches at the bottoms of each panel and finish up with putty/block sanding. I am going to tackle the quarter panel first. Should be fun. As a side bar note. here is the link for this guy Tony Bandalos who I am not yet sure is worth a look? http://vip-offer.learnautobodyandpaint.com/ 340challconvert
1970 A-66 340 Challenger convertible
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: 340challconvert]
#1655263
08/08/14 01:22 AM
08/08/14 01:22 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,543 USA
hudsonhornet7x
pro stock
|
pro stock
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,543
USA
|
Quote:
Thank you for your thoughts on this. My mechanical skills are stronger then my body work and fabrication skills. I need to improve in the body work area. I started looking at the Kevin Tetz (Eastwood videos) and Pete (with the graphic language) on DYI autoschool videos on Utube Even though it is piece meal information, it gives me some basic techniques. Best way to learn seems to be to just start practicing. I just wanted to get some pointers first. Most of the work I need to do is body dings and one section of the quarter panel that was very poorly repaired by a "friend" back in the 80's. I will need to spot weld two lower quarter panel patches at the bottoms of each panel and finish up with putty/block sanding. I am going to tackle the quarter panel first. Should be fun. As a side bar note. here is the link for this guy Tony Bandalos who I am not yet sure is worth a look?
http://vip-offer.learnautobodyandpaint.com/
340challconvert
I can't speak about Tom V, but I can tell you Kevin Tetz's videos are very, very good. He is a buddy of mine and I use his videos at the Venango Technology Center where I teach autobody. I have also seen that Pete on youtube and I can't watch his videos at all. The guy is such a jerk!
Any questions please let me know, I would be happy to help!
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
#1655265
08/17/14 04:57 PM
08/17/14 04:57 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 464 KY
Telvis
mopar
|
mopar
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 464
KY
|
I used the Kevin Tetz Paintucation videos and learned a lot. I have also learned from some Utube videos too. One of the best things I ever did was befriend the folks at my local PPG paint shop. They helped me learn about the various primers, sealers, base coats and clears. They also helped me understand the processes and some good shortcuts to make life easier. A lot of the stores give classes to body shop guys and have someone designated as an instructor. I know the PPG store I go to has that. They even has a small paint booth for training. If you can get on their good side you can even get a bit of one on one spraying training. I'm not a trained body guy but I can paint as good as anyone, especially after wet sand and buff I say any video or other training program is going to help. Once you learn the basic principles practice and following all steps to the letter. That is going to yield the best results. In my experience lack of patience and not following all the steps is the downfall of most home paint and body jobs. It's not technically all that hard but it does take a LOT of time and work to make it right. It's not a quick process by any stretch.
That's King Weenie to you!
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: Telvis]
#1655266
08/17/14 05:22 PM
08/17/14 05:22 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley
RodStRace
I Live Here
|
I Live Here
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 12,481
Chino Valley
|
I consider myself a rank amateur. I've been around shops, done some minor stuff and then went into community college for a few semesters. I've only shot a couple pedal cars and my van fully, and done some other partial shooting (primed a car Friday).
1. There are a ton of resources for this online. 2. Get to know a local paint jobber and learn about the systems they carry. This means hopefully the guy behind the counter actively sprays and is not just a product jockey. Grab some mfgr flyers and the MSDS for the products. 3. You will get conflicting info, sometimes from the same source. There are many rules that have the exception that proves the point. The rules that most will agree with are:
Prep is 90+% of the job. Everyone digs the part when you fire up that fresh engine, but the 30 minute break-in is preceded by many hours of careful measurement, machining, fitting, cleaning, refitting, torquing, adjusting.
The difference between a good painter and a great painter is how they deal with the inevitable issues that do happen. Clean tools, clean surface, clean product, clean area. Any 2-part paint or primer will kill you without a respirator. A solid single stage color is much better to start out with instead of a metallic 2 stage or candies/flakes.
After that, there are a lot of different paths to achieve the final result.
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: RodStRace]
#1655267
08/26/14 10:44 AM
08/26/14 10:44 AM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 133 Parsippany, New Jersey
340challconvert
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 133
Parsippany, New Jersey
|
I thank everyone for their advice. Some good ideas, especially hooking up with a good paint shop and making sure that the proper steps are followed with no "rushing" the process. Safety is also paramount with appropriate precautions when doing this type of work. I am going to stay with the Eastwood videos. The Tony B videos remind me of "infomercials" on TV I am actually looking forward to starting the bodywork and learning/improving my skills in this area. 340challconvert
1970 A-66 340 Challenger convertible
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: hudsonhornet7x]
#2445003
02/02/18 01:32 AM
02/02/18 01:32 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525 N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
Too Many Posts
|
Too Many Posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,525
N.E. OHIO, USA
|
can't speak about Tom V, but I can tell you Kevin Tetz's videos are very, very good. He is a buddy of mine and I use his videos at the Venango Technology Center where I teach autobody. I have also seen that Pete on youtube and I can't watch his videos at all. The guy is such a jerk!
Any questions please let me know, I would be happy to help! To me Kevin Tetz is the best!!!!! Please say THANKS to him for me as his videos have been one of the best, most helpful learning videos I've ever watched! I also want to say thanks to Eastwood and especially the CLE Parma store for their help and customer service. I just finished my '85 E350 van and watched and re-watched Kevin's videos as I worked along...the final prep info that Kevin shares was priceless. This is my '85 E350 with close to 400,000 miles that I've owned since new, 33 years. Kevin and Eastwood (and I have yet to sand and buff it....waiting till spring Also did our 2001 Chrysler T&C from replacing the rockers to patching in repair panels and 30% repaint including the hood and some rust repair, again with the Kevin Tetz / Eastwood videos. Best informational videos out there and that's why I'm a steady customer hoping to repay them. Good job KT/EW!! MikeR
Last edited by A12; 02/02/18 01:33 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: 340challconvert]
#2445576
02/03/18 12:23 PM
02/03/18 12:23 PM
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,134 Lost in Time
Iowan
super stock
|
super stock
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,134
Lost in Time
|
All you people doing paint work should pay attention to the MASDS sheets for the product your using. Head the warning "may cause nerve damage", I have Peripheral neuropathy from exposure to the neurotoxins in paint and other chemicals that are in the shop. I have delt with it for about fifteen years and finally went on disability two years ago. I have pain bellow my knees in feet ankle and legged. It took twenty years before I noticed symptoms but have seen two guys get sick after one paint job, so be careful your working with POISON!
Last edited by Iowan; 02/03/18 12:24 PM.
Have a great day Iowan
"obsolete is neat"
|
|
|
Re: Learn Autobody & Paint course Tony Bandalos worth it?
[Re: Iowan]
#2445662
02/03/18 03:05 PM
02/03/18 03:05 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,713 KY
65pacecar
master
|
master
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,713
KY
|
All you people doing paint work should pay attention to the MASDS sheets for the product your using. Head the warning "may cause nerve damage", I have Peripheral neuropathy from exposure to the neurotoxins in paint and other chemicals that are in the shop. I have delt with it for about fifteen years and finally went on disability two years ago. I have pain bellow my knees in feet ankle and legged. It took twenty years before I noticed symptoms but have seen two guys get sick after one paint job, so be careful your working with POISON! It is some bad stuff to deal with. All precautions must be used and then some, It killed a guy I work with at a young age since he basically painted with just a bandanna to cover his nose and mouth. Did it for years with SS paint , the BC/CC stuff took him down fast. I’m sure both did damage but the new stuff expedited it.
|
|
|
|
|