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I am wondering what's the average cost is for getting a set of w2 heads ported. I was at my local machineshop today dropping off a 383bb and he's said for a competition 5 angle valve job was $190 and to port a set of w2 to 310-325cfm would cost me around $500 and $300 for a intake.. is that a good deal?

Re: Porting Heads [Re: moparguy93] #1653630
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I am wondering what's the average cost is for getting a set of w2 heads ported. I was at my local machineshop today dropping off a 383bb and he's said for a competition 5 angle valve job was $190 and to port a set of w2 to 310-325cfm would cost me around $500 and $300 for a intake.. is that a good deal?




That's a very good price. Verify that they have experience hitting those numbers on W2s on a calibrated bench...325 out of W2s require "all out" porting and being iron heads it isn't exactly a quick process if being done by hand.

Request a flow sheet to make sure flow numbers progress at all lifts, max flow isn't important if there is reversion in flow or if the low/mid lift numbers aren't good.

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Re: Porting Heads [Re: moparguy93] #1653631
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If he is competent.... That is a super deal to port iron heads to that level


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Re: Porting Heads [Re: moparguy93] #1653632
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I'd be wary.

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Re: Porting Heads [Re: moparguy93] #1653633
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Where are you in Mn. ?
There is a place in Bloomington called " Headwerx " or something like that.......Earlier this week , I spoke to the guy about getting a set of Eddies done for another deal and he was pretty short with me.
Nice clean shop , but no flow #'s even though he claimed he had done small block MoPar Eddies in the past.
I used Brian at R&R in Spring Lake Park for my W-9's and was very happy with the work and the price.
He is very good........and pretty busy.
Another real Ace and solid MoPar guy is Ron Flood ( Cedar Machine ) and he is up around North Branch.
There are some quality shops in the state and some I wouldn't let work on my lawn mower.

Re: Porting Heads [Re: moparguy93] #1653634
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I am wondering what's the average cost is for getting a set of w2 heads ported. I was at my local machineshop today dropping off a 383bb and he's said for a competition 5 angle valve job was $190 and to port a set of w2 to 310-325cfm would cost me around $500 and $300 for a intake.. is that a good deal?




Unless he has done sets of W-2s theres now way I would
try to get 325 of of them... core shift and he will
be through them... I have 310 out of mine and I did
go through the intake to the push rod.. had to tube
them just the other week because the epoxy let go..
but the price is great

Re: Porting Heads [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1653635
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I'd be wary.

Sheldon


X2. Is this guy who can take these heads successfully out to the high end of their potential really going to port iron for $10/hr.? Like some have mentioned, the good shops are BUSY. Is he?

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Get what you pay for.
If it sounds to good to be true you know the rest.

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IMHO:
Either he's stupid or he's lying and you don't want either type of person working on your heads.

If the price is a penny less than $1000 something is wrong.

If you want to know more get in touch with Dwayne Porter (or one of the other professionals on the board). He'll give you a straight answer.

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Re: Porting Heads [Re: moparguy93] #1653638
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In my opinion with 310-325 being at the extreme end of a w2's capabilities I don't know how someone could even claim that. Most of the casting won't even go there. There would be at least a 50-50 chance in the effort to port that much they would ruin them. The other thought is his numbers are inflated. The bench is calibrated wrong on purpose to get what every one wants.

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In my opinion with 310-325 being at the extreme end of a w2's capabilities I don't know how someone could even claim that. Most of the casting won't even go there. There would be at least a 50-50 chance in the effort to port that much they would ruin them. The other thought is his numbers are inflated. The bench is calibrated wrong on purpose to get what every one wants.




I have never heard of 325 out of W-2s.. mine are
actually 308 and that was going through the pinch
but 314 was the most I have heard of on a real bench
that has a good cal.. I flowed mine at work(Chrysler
Cyd head lab) and did everything I could with the
help of the pro there in the lab(old friend of mine)
just to get what I did and still had to tube the intakes..
if that guy can claim a REAL 325... his bench is happy
or he is BSing

Re: Porting Heads [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1653640
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310 is relatively easy with a W2 head and "the pinch" isn't an issue with that head. Core castings and cracks on some of the econo heads are a problem and knowing what I know now if i used the same casting I would NEVER use the recommended torque values and would do a couple of other things differently. Part numbers get very confusing when dealing with that head. My econo heads both cracked right were the W2 is cast on the header side deck surface. Stock those heads maxed out at 260cfm at between .450-.500 lift and then fell on their face. Bowl and short-turn work easily gets them 300+ even with the 2.02 valve. Then it gets a little trickier and time to upgrade valves.


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The shady dell website shows a flow spec of 324.3 at .650 lift. But I'm pretty sure he's done more than just a few sets of W2s. I dont see anyone spending the required amount of time to reach 325 for $500. Anyone out there have a flow sheet for the CNC ported W2s from Modern Cylinder Head? Seems like I've heard they have a CNC program for them?

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The shady dell website shows a flow spec of 324.3 at .650 lift. But I'm pretty sure he's done more than just a few sets of W2s. I dont see anyone spending the required amount of time to reach 325 for $500. Anyone out there have a flow sheet for the CNC ported W2s from Modern Cylinder Head?




I'm sure than Ryan found a good set to get 324 but
with shift its gonna be a issue... I will take 310
for sure and keep them in one piece... if I want more
I'll get another set of heads and not W-2s

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I'm sure than Ryan found a good set to get 324 but
with shift its gonna be a issue... I will take 310
for sure and keep them in one piece... if I want more
I'll get another set of heads and not W-2s





I've got a set of the newest W2s, the guy that I use for porting took a look at them and couldn't believe how much core shift there is.

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I'm sure than Ryan found a good set to get 324 but
with shift its gonna be a issue... I will take 310
for sure and keep them in one piece... if I want more
I'll get another set of heads and not W-2s





I've got a set of the newest W2s, the guy that I use for porting took a look at them and couldn't believe how much core shift there is.




I have 2 sets.. both econo but one set with long valves
and standard.. the long valve set has a decent amount
of shift the standard is decent... the long valve
set is what I with through

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Anyone out there have a flow sheet for the CNC ported W2s from Modern Cylinder Head? Seems like I've heard they have a CNC program for them?




I have a set that Jeff did several years back. I tried to post the Word doc file, but it doesn't work here. They flowed [Email]321@.650"[/Email] on the intakes, [Email]227.0@.700"[/Email] w/o tube, [Email]264.1@.700"[/Email] with the tube on the exhaust.

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