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Question about my rear drum brakes #1649767 07/22/14 05:26 PM 07/22/14 05:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	I have a dumb question, why are the brake pad/shoe springs sticking out past the pad/shoe and rubbing against my brake drum? Do I need wider brake pads/shoes or do I need shorter spring rods to pull the springs in tighter? This is a 72 Duster. Thanks 8216424-20140722_150900.jpg (103 downloads)

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: ProSport] #1649768 07/22/14 06:06 PM 07/22/14 06:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Not a dumb Q at all. Shorter rods (brake nails) I would assume. 8&3/4 SBP rear uses shallow SBP specific backing plates/1&3/4" shoes/drums. the convex side goes inward on the dime sized round holddown spring retainers live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: RapidRobert] #1649769 07/22/14 06:26 PM 07/22/14 06:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	Ok thanks I will look for shorter brake nails.

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: ProSport] #1649770 07/22/14 06:31 PM 07/22/14 06:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Likely you could cut yours then tamp the end(s) flat. As you know measure twice/cut once live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: RapidRobert] #1649771 07/22/14 06:55 PM 07/22/14 06:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	That's a good idea, what's the best way to tamp one of those? My pins are 2 3/8 total length. I might go to Summit Racing and look at Dorman part number HW1106, those are suppose to be for the Mopar A-body with 1 3/4 brakes.

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: ProSport] #1649772 07/22/14 07:05 PM 07/22/14 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,928 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,928 Grand Prairie,Texas	Why go to summit when you can go to the local parts store and get the same thing for a lot less.

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: stumpy] #1649773 07/22/14 08:44 PM 07/22/14 08:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	I googled em to see if the length was listed & it was not but in the pics the swedge on the end looks pretty healthy & not sure you could get it that wide with a hammer & as Stump said it might be the easiest to just hit your parts store. They're certainly cheap enough live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: stumpy] #1649774 07/22/14 09:47 PM 07/22/14 09:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	Quote: Why go to summit when you can go to the local parts store and get the same thing for a lot less. Yea they probably sell them everywhere, I have to go to Summit and it's only $2.97 for a box of 4 which is all I need. I don't know why they don't list the lengths, it would make things easier, I might end up having them bring out a bunch of boxes to find some shorter ones.

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: ProSport] #1649775 07/23/14 07:28 AM 07/23/14 07:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,357 central Florida VL21 pro stock
VL21 pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,357 central Florida	Likely you were just given a kit for 10x2" brakes ... which was (obviously) wrong. Looks like the self adjuster cable has slack in it? Last edited by VL21; 07/23/14 07:32 AM. It takes gasoline to interest me.

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: VL21] #1649776 07/23/14 08:05 AM 07/23/14 08:05 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,306 Laveen, Arizona GTSDart340 pro stock
GTSDart340 pro stock Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,306 Laveen, Arizona	I had the same problem on my dart. Turns out the kit I had was designed for both sizes of shoes. It came with longer nails and short ones. I found out almost the hard way as the drum nearly ate through the spring retainer!! 1949 International KB-2 "Mater" - 302/T5 1968 Dodge Dart GTS "The Drat" - 340/727 2006 Dodge Magnum R/T - Hemi 2016 Dodge Durango Limited - 3.6

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: GTSDart340] #1649777 07/23/14 11:36 AM 07/23/14 11:36 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Looking at the pic again it sure looks like the hold down springs ain't close enough to coil bind which they should be somewhat closer to it as the shoes need to be held in there pretty tight live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: ProSport] #1649778 07/23/14 02:02 PM 07/23/14 02:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Are all the retainers the same depth, inner and outer? You may have 2 different ones. Instead of cutting and reshaping the end just add a washer or 3 to the head of the nail before it goes through the backing plate.

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: RapidRobert] #1649779 07/23/14 08:36 PM 07/23/14 08:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 240 New Mexico Geo4K enthusiast
Geo4K enthusiast Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 240 New Mexico	I'm sorry... I looked at your picture first and then glanced over your written question. At first I thought I read, I have a Drum question... I chuckle and though, "how clever" I love puns. Sorry for the thread jack....

Re: Question about my rear drum brakes [Re: GTSDart340] #1649780 07/24/14 11:25 AM 07/24/14 11:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio ProSport OP I Live Here
ProSport OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,918 Akron, Ohio	Quote: I had the same problem on my dart. Turns out the kit I had was designed for both sizes of shoes. It came with longer nails and short ones. I found out almost the hard way as the drum nearly ate through the spring retainer!! We did these rear drums a year ago, car has been sitting. I found the shorter hold down pins in the bag on my shelf. Everything is much better now.

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