"Problem Solver" Ball Joints - Moparts Forums

Register Log In Moparts Forums Moparts Question and Answer "Problem Solver" Ball Joints

Print Thread

"Problem Solver" Ball Joints #1648920 07/20/14 10:37 PM 07/20/14 10:37 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody OP mopar
80fbody OP mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	I'm getting my volare back on the road and it's in need of an alignment. I've had it aligned twice in the past & it's a bear to get the top of the tire far enough out. It's fallen back in twice now on both sides. A buddy mentioned switching to the Moog "Problem Solver" upper ball joint which he says will give me some "built in" camber. Just want to see if anyone has done this with success or have other thoughts/ideas.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648921 07/20/14 10:51 PM 07/20/14 10:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,074 Niles , Ohio	I know they worked on Chevettes.You fliped them one way or the other to get more or less camber.I did a lot of them at work.Never heard of them for Mopars.Only way camber can change is if the adjustment bolts arent tight.My nephew had his done and they didnt tighten them enough.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: therocks] #1648922 07/20/14 11:03 PM 07/20/14 11:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody OP mopar
80fbody OP mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Ya, I'm not really sure either as they're screw in uppers so how would you locate them properly. Rock Auto has them listed as Moog K772 problem solver for only $14.99. Last edited by 80fbody; 07/20/14 11:05 PM.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648923 07/20/14 11:53 PM 07/20/14 11:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	isn't it Moog offset UCA bushings #K7103 & they will kick the UCA/top of spindle out to get more positive camber. I would first check into getting the frame tabs welded so it wont cave in again. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648924 07/21/14 12:01 AM 07/21/14 12:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,998 North Pole,New York F formula_s master
formula_s master F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,998 North Pole,New York	Quote: both sides. A buddy mentioned switching to the Moog "Problem Solver" upper ball joint which he says will give me some "built in" camber. He's not working on Mopars if he says upper ball joints will give you more camber , they're screw in types as mentioned, only offset bushings UCA bushings can do that. BTW all Moog parts say "problem solver " on the box.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648925 07/21/14 12:04 AM 07/21/14 12:04 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: I'm getting my volare back on the road and it's in need of an alignment. I've had it aligned twice in the past & it's a bear to get the top of the tire far enough out. It's fallen back in twice now on both sides. A buddy mentioned switching to the Moog "Problem Solver" upper ball joint which he says will give me some "built in" camber. Just want to see if anyone has done this with success or have other thoughts/ideas. My 76 F gets plenty of camber. You mention its "fallen back in". Do you mean the dog bone (shaft the uca pivots on) has moved after alignment?

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648926 07/21/14 12:21 AM 07/21/14 12:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Yes the Moog "problem solver" upper control arm bushings work. Never heard of Ball joint problem solvers. Im sure your referring to the upper control arm bushings. The bushings have a Offset hole for the bushing bolt vs centered for a stock bushing. They work. As far as your camber slipping back in. your adjuster bolts werent tightend enough and slipped or your shock tower is rusted and flexing in from bumps and lack of strength. Or your lower control arm bushings are shot and moving out. The Volaries had alot of extra rubber in thier Kframes

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: Sport440] #1648927 07/21/14 05:32 AM 07/21/14 05:32 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,306 Laveen, Arizona GTSDart340 pro stock
GTSDart340 pro stock Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,306 Laveen, Arizona	Most often Moog problem solvers are just reengineered to fix common failure points. They don't always have anything to do with alignments. 1949 International KB-2 "Mater" - 302/T5 1968 Dodge Dart GTS "The Drat" - 340/727 2006 Dodge Magnum R/T - Hemi 2016 Dodge Durango Limited - 3.6

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: GTSDart340] #1648928 07/21/14 09:27 AM 07/21/14 09:27 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody OP mopar
80fbody OP mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Thanks for clearing that up. I looked into offset bushings but the moog pic shows them centered. May have to see if the parts store can get a set for me to check out. As far as the top falling back in, Nothings rusted & we used an impact gun both times. Car's in pretty good shape with only 45k on the clock. I'll do some more digging on the car to see if I can find the issue.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: formula_s] #1648929 07/21/14 01:01 PM 07/21/14 01:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,394 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,394 Pikes Peak Country	Quote: BTW all Moog parts say "problem solver " on the box. I noticed that as well. FWIW, the "Problem solver" upper bushings won't work on F bodies because they have a shaft mounted upper control arm and do not use the same eccentric cams as old mopars. If the upper arms are moving, I'd think the bolts are striped or the serrated tines are stripped or there is some other physical problem with the set up.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: TC@HP2] #1648930 07/21/14 02:57 PM 07/21/14 02:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody OP mopar
80fbody OP mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	I think the serrations are worn out on the shafts but it was always tough to get the top of the tire out far enough. Usually maxed out with a pry bar while gunning the bolts down. I was really hoping I could get a little more camber in it before taking it down to the shop.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648931 07/21/14 05:30 PM 07/21/14 05:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376 D dogdays I Live Here
dogdays I Live Here D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,376	From the looks of drawings i found online, the upper A-arms are on shafts with the shafts bolted down with vertical bolts. So the alignment method of adding or subtracting spcers behind the shaft won't work. You could slot the holes to gain more adjustability. It's been done a lot on MacPherson strut upper bearing mounts, although they don't see the forces that the shaft holddown bolts do. Still, you should be able to make some changes. R.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648932 07/21/14 07:19 PM 07/21/14 07:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,946 WI Dcuda69 master
Dcuda69 master Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,946 WI	How much camber are you trying to get...don't use the old bias tires specs. If you can get to -.25 or -.50 you're golden with as much pos. caster as possible. Make sure those upper control arm bolts are clean and tight!!! I've had them move on me before!! I spent a lot of time in the alignment pit when these things were on the road all the time.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: dogdays] #1648933 07/21/14 09:36 PM 07/21/14 09:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody OP mopar
80fbody OP mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Widening the slots sounds like it might be the easiest option. Going to pull the bolts out & check the serrations out. New shafts may be in order if they're worn off. That's if they're even available. It's been several years since I've played with this car so things are a little foggy.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648934 07/21/14 09:38 PM 07/21/14 09:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: I think the serrations are worn out on the shafts but it was always tough to get the top of the tire out far enough. Usually maxed out with a pry bar while gunning the bolts down. I was really hoping I could get a little more camber in it before taking it down to the shop. Did you check the torque specs? Whats the condition of the UCA and LCA bushings? I wouldnt use an air gun on the UCA shaft hold down bolts. Torque them down to 150 ft lbs.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648935 07/21/14 09:46 PM 07/21/14 09:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: Widening the slots sounds like it might be the easiest option. Going to pull the bolts out & check the serrations out. New shafts may be in order if they're worn off. That's if they're even available. It's been several years since I've played with this car so things are a little foggy. The serrations are on both the shaft and the plate they mount to. 8215719-100_2450a.jpg (105 downloads)

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1648936 07/22/14 05:10 PM 07/22/14 05:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass. 8 80fbody OP mopar
80fbody OP mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	Thanks Jim for the torque spec & pic. Everything was nice when I put the car together but I put it away when I bought a house. Just getting it out after nearly 7 years. Got to definitely go thru the front end before I waste any more money on another alignment.

Re: "Problem Solver" Ball Joints [Re: 80fbody] #1648937 07/22/14 05:41 PM 07/22/14 05:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Your welcome Jay. I rebuilt the front end on my 76 Aspen wagon last year. UCA bushings were whipped and actually falling apart on the PS. Camber was visibly off on that side. RockAuto had everything I needed to rebuild, all MOOG and TRW, and at very good prices. 8216435-100_2472a.jpg (102 downloads)

Moderated by Al_Alguire, Hotwheelsjr, moparts, not_a_charger, RangerDan440, tboomer

Hop To

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1