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Struck out on dakota, scored this instead #1648088 07/19/14 01:00 AM 07/19/14 01:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	Couldn't find a dakota r/t in my price range that wasn't killed but i found this 69 valiant here on the classifieds. Ended up being 40 miles away and a great deal. Car has: 69 383 4bbl, 727, 3:23sg, 16:1 ff manual box, manual kh discs and a recent front end rebuild(ball joints, tie rods, torsion bars)still has small bolt pattern setup. Has front 225/60 rear 245/60r14 bfgs Goal is street/strip/autox and some day down the line some track events. Once i get all the driveability/electrical bugs worked out what are the best bang for the buck upgrades? Planning subframe connectors when i have the floors patched this winter. Thanks for any advice! Chris 8212818-v100.jpg (129 downloads)

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648089 07/19/14 01:07 AM 07/19/14 01:07 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,658 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,658 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	some autocross classes and organizations don't allow for the sub frame connectors to be welded to the actual floorboards of the car, only the ends to the sub frames. be sure to do your research. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: amxautox] #1648090 07/19/14 01:28 AM 07/19/14 01:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	I was going to try for the cam class. I don't know how competitive it would be in street prepared. Really need to talk to the local region guys and see where the car fits.

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648091 07/19/14 01:46 AM 07/19/14 01:46 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	We made enough mods to my son's Barracuda that, even though it was street driven, we had to compete in CP (otherwise known as Heavy Metal). We couldn't compete with truly prepared cars, but did well against the entire field which included some "popular" autocross cars. We were running a 383/4sp in a 67 Barracuda...

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648092 07/19/14 02:43 AM 07/19/14 02:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	I've seen a couple videos of Jim's son's Barracuda from way back when and it handled pretty well. As for upgrades, if it were me, I'd probably add larger T-bars (at least 1.06"), get 17 or 18" wheels and tires (Coy's make a set and Motech sells Show Wheels in sbp), and a good pair of shocks (Bilsteins or Fox).

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648093 07/19/14 09:07 PM 07/19/14 09:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA Tomswheels enthusiast
Tomswheels enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	We'll since CAM was created for this kind of car, I wouldn't hesitate, I just built my 67 to run CAM and finished 2nd out of 12 cars in its debut (.4 sec away from first...). Start with a front Swaybar and some sticky 200 treadware tires and go have fun!

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: Tomswheels] #1648094 07/19/14 10:30 PM 07/19/14 10:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	Got front tires on it today so i could finally take it for a shake down run. Amazing how much better it drove without a slipped belt on the front. Need to figure out why it won't upshift into third next. I'm assuming the kickdown linkage is binding/out of adjustment. Are there any bolt on sway bars for our cars? Any interior restrictions in cam? Front bench is shot and thought i would throw some aftermarket seats in it if i didn't move me to a higher class. Thanks for the info. Can't wait to get the bugs out of this thing at take it to the races next month.

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648095 07/19/14 10:54 PM 07/19/14 10:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	You have some good bones to work with there! There are several Valiant builds you can check out to learn what parts and combos others have done well with.

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648096 07/19/14 11:23 PM 07/19/14 11:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA Tomswheels enthusiast
Tomswheels enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	Plenty of bolt on Sway Bar options, again, I'd start with front only, then good 200 treadwear tires, then shocks. The only interior restriction in CAM is that you have to have one, so seats that keep you centered are a great idea. CAM allows any mods, as long as you are over 3000 lbs, have all exterior body panels and an interior, and use 200 or higher treadwear tires. Similar to the Goodguys Autocross rules, very lenient to a lot of mods!

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1648097 07/19/14 11:32 PM 07/19/14 11:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	There are plenty of choices for sway bars. I worked with Firm Feel on my stuff. If/when you think of upgrade to BBP wheels it would be a good time to upgrade brakes. The KH work fine but are hard/a bit expensive to service. Late A spindles, 11.75 rotors and matching calipers would be a good upgrade and easily serviced (see Mopar Action Diskotech).

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: ahy] #1648098 07/20/14 12:09 AM 07/20/14 12:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	would a sway bar for the current suspension work with the newer suspension? I'm going to have to run the current setup for awhile and add little things while i build up funds. I can see the next step steamrolling into a big expense. bbp front/rear and wheels/tires is going to be pricey but worth every penny in the long run.

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1648099 07/20/14 12:23 AM 07/20/14 12:23 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	Need a really poorly done six pack hood for a 68 valiant? Need to find a correct year hood for mine eventually. Love the red brick. I was actually reading the thread on your car when i found my 69. Beautiful car, best of luck with it!

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: buconine] #1648100 07/20/14 05:24 AM 07/20/14 05:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands BigBlockMopar master
BigBlockMopar master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,575 The Netherlands	Not upshifting to 3rd could be just the gearshift linkage not being adjusted properly with the shifter. I would start by checking this first. Nice little car. BigBlockMopar.com

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: BigBlockMopar] #1648101 07/20/14 02:22 PM 07/20/14 02:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 321 Massachusetts S Sneke_Eyez enthusiast
Sneke_Eyez enthusiast S Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 321 Massachusetts	Congrats, I've always liked that style of Valiant. I was looking for one of those when I bought my 74 Dart, but I just couldn't find one. 1969 Satellite Wagon - G3 Hemi Swap Incoming. \| 1969 Coronet Post Coupe. 2002 Intrepid ES \| 2009 Ram SLT \| 2004 300M Special \| 2002 300M Pro Am - Hers Are you a New England Mopar Enthusiast? Come check out the revived NorthEast Mighty Mopar at www.northeastmightymopar.com!

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: Sneke_Eyez] #1648102 07/20/14 02:26 PM 07/20/14 02:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 163 Speedway In. I IndyDave member
IndyDave member I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 163 Speedway In.	Build the car the way you want and run CAM. We created the class for folks like you. Dave Dusterberg 1979 Aspen R/T (soon to be #19 CAM/T) 2002 Ram 1500 SLT 2005 Magnum R/T 2005 Mustang GT SCCA CAM/C #19

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: IndyDave] #1648103 07/20/14 03:44 PM 07/20/14 03:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country	Quote: Build the car the way you want and run CAM. We created the class for folks like you. Curious question about CAM, with its liberal rule set, why no alcohol or alcohol/water injection allowed? Water injection is my plan for avoiding detonation without going to the widely variable and sometimes unavailable E85 solution for high compression.

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: IndyDave] #1648104 07/20/14 05:54 PM 07/20/14 05:54 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	I would say you hit a home run with that little sweetheart. Also a testament to me needing to check freakin Craiglist more! Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: TC@HP2] #1648105 07/20/14 06:32 PM 07/20/14 06:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 163 Speedway In. I IndyDave member
IndyDave member I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 163 Speedway In.	Quote: Quote: Build the car the way you want and run CAM. We created the class for folks like you. Curious question about CAM, with its liberal rule set, why no alcohol or alcohol/water injection allowed? Water injection is my plan for avoiding detonation without going to the widely variable and sometimes unavailable E85 solution for high compression. I don't know where you got that? Right now it's not addressed specifically in the rules as to what you can use but since the cars are to street legal, licensed and insured, most regions would default to the fuel rules for Street, and Street Touring rules which say that it must be a fuel federally approved for highway use on public highways. Dave Dusterberg 1979 Aspen R/T (soon to be #19 CAM/T) 2002 Ram 1500 SLT 2005 Magnum R/T 2005 Mustang GT SCCA CAM/C #19

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: IndyDave] #1648106 07/20/14 08:52 PM 07/20/14 08:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country T TC@HP2 master
TC@HP2 master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,388 Pikes Peak Country	Found it on here, at the bottom of the page under safety: http://www.solomatters.com/introducing-classic-american-muscle-cam Have to admit, I'm not an SCCA member, have not researched this further than a quick google, and until my car hits the pavement, I likely won't be attending any of their events. I do see they have a few cars running CAM in my region, Rocky Mtn, so it is available when I decide to go, but if the h2o injection eliminates me as a competitor, then I will only be running for experience

Re: Struck out on dakota, scored this instead [Re: TC@HP2] #1648107 07/20/14 09:14 PM 07/20/14 09:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 163 Speedway In. I IndyDave member
IndyDave member I Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 163 Speedway In.	Quote: Found it on here, at the bottom of the page under safety: http://www.solomatters.com/introducing-classic-american-muscle-cam Have to admit, I'm not an SCCA member, have not researched this further than a quick google, and until my car hits the pavement, I likely won't be attending any of their events. I do see they have a few cars running CAM in my region, Rocky Mtn, so it is available when I decide to go, but if the h2o injection eliminates me as a competitor, then I will only be running for experience OK, that's from the General Regulations in the Solo Rulebook. Took me a while to find it. Those rules apply to all SCCA Solo classes. My guess why that rule is in place is due to fire concerns. SCCA Solo events are generally run without emergency equipment on scene. We do have basic safety equipment with us, firefighting equipment is limited to ABC extinguishers. While many of us are trained in the proper use of fire extinguishers putting out an alcohol fire can be tricky. Gasoline fires can be seen, alcohol fires cannot always. Dave Dusterberg 1979 Aspen R/T (soon to be #19 CAM/T) 2002 Ram 1500 SLT 2005 Magnum R/T 2005 Mustang GT SCCA CAM/C #19

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