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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: Thumperdart] #1632463
06/13/14 02:40 PM
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Good seeing you this morning Jay! 2-3 weeks....


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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: fishy340] #1632464
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Not trying to piss ya off but 140 @ 3200 aint 700 brotha




i would think it's close. my motor made 716 on Brian's dyno. in my car weighing 3050 with me in it i went 9.77 @138.74 and that was with 12% converter slippage

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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: w2stroker] #1632465
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In the right hands a W5 can't sniff within' 200+hp of a W8.

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: w2stroker] #1632466
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Not trying to piss ya off but 140 @ 3200 aint 700 brotha




i would think it's close. my motor made 716 on Brian's dyno. in my car weighing 3050 with me in it i went 9.77 @138.74 and that was with 12% converter slippage




Yes and this car went 9.62 at 140 and change at about 3220. And that's using a 727. Easily making over 700


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: B3422W5] #1632467
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Our W5 was certainly not a "max'ed" effort and netted us a 9.86 @ 138 once. Good mph, but the car wasn't 60fting worth a darn. Car wasn't legal and the shift point was set quite low for the combo when my dad was wheeling it. It's caged and will have all the equipment to get certed legal so we'll see where it goes from there.... better ways to invest go fast money? sure... but it's the path I chose so I'll go with it!

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: J_BODY] #1632468
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made it home wednesday night hauling 773hp@7k/650 torque in the back of the ole Dodge. I'll have to come up with a pulley and alternator. Add some fore/aft limiters and we should be pretty close to hauling it to a track. It's so dang hot in the garage so it's hard to get my butt out there to do any work this time of year.



Thank you Brian and Fred Hafliger (IMM Engines) for screwing this thing together.

Thank you Brett Miller.... didn't have a clue who he was, but after my W5 disappointment I was talking to Jesse and he urged me to call Brett as he knew he had a top end laying around. Made the call, and away we went!

Thank you Brian Smith for coming up with some key pieces which were slowing my progress down to a standstill. The waterpump spacers and motor plate for the belt drive were perfect!!



Can't wait until this fall when it cools and I can get this package sorted out. It's going to be fun I'm thinking!

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: J_BODY] #1632469
07/25/14 11:55 AM
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Oh boy Jay. Very nice! Should be a fun ride.


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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: J_BODY] #1632470
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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: fishy340] #1632471
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A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!




I would hope it makes more than a max effort 650hp w5 does.





We have had this argument before...but a max effort W5 makes way more than 650.... easily over 700....... again 3220 weight 140 mph on stock suspension with a 727 is well over 700......oops...its the same thread....lol

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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: J_BODY] #1632472
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DAMN NICE !! thanks for posting.

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: J_BODY] #1632473
07/25/14 12:42 PM
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What are some specs of the build? Not familiar with this one

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: SpareParts] #1632474
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Looks good Jay!


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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: JERICOGTX] #1632475
07/25/14 09:39 PM
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Very nice! I saw the pics and video on IMM's facebook page. Brian and his Dad are great! They did the BB for my project.

I'm with you on the heat. I'm lucky to work 2nd shift, so I get out in the garage at 6:00am. Still been in the 90's that early, but I can get a couple of hours in before work.

Again, she's a beauty and should a lot of fun. Good luck with it!


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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: B3422W5] #1632476
07/25/14 10:31 PM
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Yep,
A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!




I would hope it makes more than a max effort 650hp w5 does.






We have had this argument before...but a max effort W5 makes way more than 650.... easily over 700....... again 3220 weight 140 mph on stock suspension with a 727 is well over 700......oops...its the same thread....lol




Yes yours made a whooping 3 hp over 700.


Congrats jay some good numbers!!


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Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: 1967dartgt] #1632477
07/25/14 10:43 PM
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GO BUCKS !!!!!!!
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nice work
stout #s for sure

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: J_BODY] #1632478
07/26/14 11:14 AM
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Like to give us any specs?

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: Otherlane] #1632479
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436 cubic inches. Ported Mopar 598 intake, W8 heads courtesy of Mr. Miller..flow 400+ on the two different benches they've been on. 9.20 R3 block. Molnar 4" crank and gm rods. Kevco aluminum rear sump pan. Compression ended up around 13.5-1 and we'll be running VP C12 fuel. After a long search a usable cam core was finally found at Crane. The grind ended up 264-272 @ .050 .750 lift at the retainer. Pretty stable combo that should provide lots of trouble free runs without a ton of babysitting. All the dyno runs were with a quickfuel 1050 carb, but I'll be running our old 1050 on it from our W5 mill. The combo was not set on "kill"... when I race it's mostly brackets so in all an engine of the magnitude is not necessary..... but it will be FUN and that's what I'm looking forward to! Get it sorted out and I may look at some index racing.

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! [Re: J_BODY] #1632480
07/26/14 12:50 PM
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Muy Excellante ! The headers are danged nice and the coolant return manifold makes me weep for all the W-9 owners out there.

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: J_BODY] #1632481
07/26/14 03:34 PM
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773hp at 7000rpm out of a mild small block and a puppie cam 260esh.............. why would you do that to all the big block guys : i want to see this beast with a big stick


In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's
5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... [Re: WHITEDART] #1632482
07/26/14 05:21 PM
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I was always told that life starts at 8500 RPMs for you W8 guys.
So what does it make at 8000?

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