W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive!

Posted By: J_BODY

W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 06/12/14 03:43 PM

It's been a long time coming.... we'll load up and head to IMM in Indio in the am and put the finishing touches on this lil block and dyno it with it's new pipes. Finally seeing the light at the end of an incredibly long tunnel....

Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 03:52 PM

Yep,
A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!

Posted By: Hemi_Joel

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 04:01 PM

"W8'ing is the hardest part" I got a laugh out of your play on words, clever.

Good luck with your motor!

Posted By: 70AARcuda

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 06:18 PM

good luck and went will we see ya again in Vegas with new motor...

Posted By: Al_Alguire

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 06:40 PM

Bout time!!!

Posted By: sixpackgut

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 07:01 PM

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W8'ing is the hardest part....

good luck

Posted By: fishy340

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 09:39 PM

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Yep,
A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!

I would hope it makes more than a max effort 650hp w5 does.

Posted By: Triple Threat

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 10:14 PM

Let me know if I need to fly in and drive

Posted By: Quicktree

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/12/14 10:22 PM

I thought about it, if I were starting from scratch I might try it. but for the few extra HP over my indy 1s just not worth it.

Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 01:36 AM

Posted By: B3422W5

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 01:43 AM

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Yep,
A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!

I would hope it makes more than a max effort 650hp w5 does.

Max effort W5 mill can make WAY more than 650. I say that because the one in my ex car made well over 700 on the Dyno and backed it up at the track by going 140 at 3200 pounds and change on S/S springs and a 28 by 10 Dot tire.
That all said, heck yes...W8 has much, much more potential

Posted By: Darryls-Demon

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 02:01 AM

Looks like the headers came out real nice Jay, merge collectors? what size are they?

Posted By: clonestocker

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 02:18 AM

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Looks like the headers came out real nice Jay, merge collectors? what size are they?

Did you have Greg Holman make them?

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 02:53 AM

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Looks like the headers came out real nice Jay, merge collectors? what size are they?

Did you have Greg Holman make them?

Yes Matt.... Gregg did his one day magic once again. 2, 2 1/8, 3 1/2 and will start with some bullet mufflers, but plan in the long run to put more exhaust on it. Honestly... we're leaving quite a bit on the table, but should put down some decent power and live a long happy life... of course we tried that route with the W5 crap and ended up pulling it apart all the time anyways

Brett shot me a good deal on the top end, so we started building around it. Do I know what I'm doing? Nope!

Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 02:58 AM

Looks good, can't wait to hear the numbers.

Posted By: wyoming

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 03:45 AM

Good luck with it Jay

Posted By: fishy340

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 03:51 AM

Not trying to piss ya off but 140 @ 3200 aint 700 brotha

Posted By: Chris'sBarracuda

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 04:44 AM

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Not trying to piss ya off but 140 @ 3200 aint 700 brotha

That's funny, Wallace computes 703 HP without DA correction..

Chris..

Posted By: fishy340

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 02:36 PM

Well if Wallace says so

Posted By: Thumperdart

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 06:30 PM

Looks like a nice stout small block you`ve got there..............

Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 06:40 PM

Good seeing you this morning Jay! 2-3 weeks....

Posted By: w2stroker

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 07:45 PM

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Not trying to piss ya off but 140 @ 3200 aint 700 brotha

i would think it's close. my motor made 716 on Brian's dyno. in my car weighing 3050 with me in it i went 9.77 @138.74 and that was with 12% converter slippage

Posted By: jim sciortino

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 07:50 PM

In the right hands a W5 can't sniff within' 200+hp of a W8.

Posted By: B3422W5

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 07:58 PM

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Not trying to piss ya off but 140 @ 3200 aint 700 brotha

i would think it's close. my motor made 716 on Brian's dyno. in my car weighing 3050 with me in it i went 9.77 @138.74 and that was with 12% converter slippage

Yes and this car went 9.62 at 140 and change at about 3220. And that's using a 727. Easily making over 700

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 06/13/14 10:40 PM

Our W5 was certainly not a "max'ed" effort and netted us a 9.86 @ 138 once. Good mph, but the car wasn't 60fting worth a darn. Car wasn't legal and the shift point was set quite low for the combo when my dad was wheeling it. It's caged and will have all the equipment to get certed legal so we'll see where it goes from there.... better ways to invest go fast money? sure... but it's the path I chose so I'll go with it!

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/25/14 03:51 PM

made it home wednesday night hauling 773hp@7k/650 torque in the back of the ole Dodge. I'll have to come up with a pulley and alternator. Add some fore/aft limiters and we should be pretty close to hauling it to a track. It's so dang hot in the garage so it's hard to get my butt out there to do any work this time of year.

Thank you Brian and Fred Hafliger (IMM Engines) for screwing this thing together.

Thank you Brett Miller.... didn't have a clue who he was, but after my W5 disappointment I was talking to Jesse and he urged me to call Brett as he knew he had a top end laying around. Made the call, and away we went!

Thank you Brian Smith for coming up with some key pieces which were slowing my progress down to a standstill. The waterpump spacers and motor plate for the belt drive were perfect!!

Can't wait until this fall when it cools and I can get this package sorted out. It's going to be fun I'm thinking!

Posted By: clonestocker

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/25/14 03:55 PM

Oh boy Jay. Very nice! Should be a fun ride.

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/25/14 03:55 PM

Posted By: B3422W5

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/25/14 04:05 PM

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Yep,
A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!

I would hope it makes more than a max effort 650hp w5 does.

We have had this argument before...but a max effort W5 makes way more than 650.... easily over 700....... again 3220 weight 140 mph on stock suspension with a 727 is well over 700......oops...its the same thread....lol

Posted By: DavidDean

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/25/14 04:08 PM

DAMN NICE !! thanks for posting.

Posted By: SpareParts

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/25/14 04:42 PM

What are some specs of the build? Not familiar with this one

Posted By: JERICOGTX

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/25/14 09:09 PM

Looks good Jay!

Posted By: 6pak2go

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/26/14 01:39 AM

Very nice! I saw the pics and video on IMM's facebook page. Brian and his Dad are great! They did the BB for my project.

I'm with you on the heat. I'm lucky to work 2nd shift, so I get out in the garage at 6:00am. Still been in the 90's that early, but I can get a couple of hours in before work.

Again, she's a beauty and should a lot of fun. Good luck with it!

Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/26/14 02:31 AM

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Yep,
A bunch of work for 15 more HP than the W5 mill..., but I guess if the water stays where it belongs, it will be worth it!

I would hope it makes more than a max effort 650hp w5 does.

We have had this argument before...but a max effort W5 makes way more than 650.... easily over 700....... again 3220 weight 140 mph on stock suspension with a 727 is well over 700......oops...its the same thread....lol

Yes yours made a whooping 3 hp over 700.

Congrats jay some good numbers!!

Posted By: 340RICK

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/26/14 02:43 AM

nice work

stout #s for sure

Posted By: Otherlane

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/26/14 03:14 PM

Like to give us any specs?

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/26/14 04:11 PM

436 cubic inches. Ported Mopar 598 intake, W8 heads courtesy of Mr. Miller..flow 400+ on the two different benches they've been on. 9.20 R3 block. Molnar 4" crank and gm rods. Kevco aluminum rear sump pan. Compression ended up around 13.5-1 and we'll be running VP C12 fuel. After a long search a usable cam core was finally found at Crane. The grind ended up 264-272 @ .050 .750 lift at the retainer. Pretty stable combo that should provide lots of trouble free runs without a ton of babysitting. All the dyno runs were with a quickfuel 1050 carb, but I'll be running our old 1050 on it from our W5 mill. The combo was not set on "kill"... when I race it's mostly brackets so in all an engine of the magnitude is not necessary..... but it will be FUN and that's what I'm looking forward to! Get it sorted out and I may look at some index racing.

Posted By: tubtar

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/26/14 04:50 PM

Muy Excellante ! The headers are danged nice and the coolant return manifold makes me weep for all the W-9 owners out there.

Posted By: WHITEDART

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/26/14 07:34 PM

773hp at 7000rpm out of a mild small block and a puppie cam 260esh.............. why would you do that to all the big block guys : i want to see this beast with a big stick

Posted By: Darryls-Demon

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/26/14 09:21 PM

I was always told that life starts at 8500 RPMs for you W8 guys.
So what does it make at 8000?

Posted By: Quicktree

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... - 07/26/14 09:35 PM

can't wait to see it run

Posted By: MattW

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/27/14 12:10 AM

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Where did you get the water manifold?

Posted By: J_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/27/14 12:37 AM

Old Craftsman truck stuff. Had to have spacers made to fit 9.20 deck block. Not the prettiest, but will do nicely.

Posted By: fishy340

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/27/14 02:50 AM

Car should have plenty with 650lbs of tq..i personally would like 8000..but like i said its should pull like a sob..FYI my 28" tire w 5500 stall and 3.91 gear went through at 7000.Have Fun chief

Posted By: MR_P_BODY

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/27/14 03:22 AM

Nice set up... no reason to set it on kill... I never
put a big enough cam in mine to make the HP but still
ran high 8s... and I didnt do dick to it for maintenance
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but mine was a lowly W-9

Posted By: 1967dartgt

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/27/14 04:29 AM

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Where did you get the water manifold?

Kent Ritter has them, fit w8 heads not w9s.

Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/27/14 08:17 PM

On the bench:

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Posted By: MoparBilly

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/29/14 03:46 AM

I wanna be there the first time your daughter gets behind the wheel...

Posted By: Brian Hafliger

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/29/14 06:22 AM

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I wanna be there the first time your daughter gets behind the wheel...

Ha ha, my Dad asked him when his daughter would be getting her license!

Posted By: ProSport

Re: W8'ing is the hardest part.... It's alive! - 07/29/14 02:42 PM

Man what a sweet motor Jay! Can't wait to see the track results.