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Blower Size On Smallblock?? #1629385
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What size blower is the largest which can reasonably be made to work on a smallblock?? Is it a 6-71, 8-71, or 10-71?? The Indy site shows a 6-71 on a sbm but they also use an offset distributor. Is the offset dizzy required? BTW would go on a 454" smallblock.

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What size blower is the largest which can reasonably be made to work on a smallblock?? Is it a 6-71, 8-71, or 10-71?? The Indy site shows a 6-71 on a sbm but they also use an offset distributor. Is the offset dizzy required? BTW would go on a 454" smallblock.




If you plan on a 454ci down the road you better think
BB and base your blower on that.. if it turns less
speed it makes less heat

Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Blucuda413] #1629387
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Have you thought about a procharger?

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Have you thought about a procharger?




must be for show....


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Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Blucuda413] #1629389
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The bigger the blower rotors the less RPM on the blower needed to make the amount(volume) boost you want, the less rotor RPM the less heat the blower makes, hot air is less dense than cooler air I'm thinking your going to need at least a 8:71 , if you could run a crank trigger ignition then a 10:71 would be even better yet


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Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1629390
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consider a twinscrew moves plenty of air without a huge case.

Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Cab_Burge] #1629391
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The bigger the blower rotors the less RPM on the blower needed to make the amount(volume) boost you want, the less rotor RPM the less heat the blower makes, hot air is less dense than cooler air I'm thinking your going to need at least a 8:71 , if you could run a crank trigger ignition then a 10:71 would be even better yet



I believe it is SSI that makes a front offset blower,if you went with a 10-71 it may not be too long.I think you need an 8-71 and it would be fine.


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Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Clanton] #1629392
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There are two ways to go with the distributer:

They make an offset distributer for blown small block Mopar's:
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techa...man_intake.html

Or a distributerless ignition:
http://www.turbo-mopar.com/forums/showthread.php?39329-Electromotive-Tec-3-laptop-progammable-DFI


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fits with most any distributor good for about 750Hp.

Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: 1Fast340] #1629394
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This may sound stupid but I plan to develop both a roots blower system and a Procharger system. I have the Procharger and the installation brackets and am gradually buying all the other parts. I also have a 12-71 that I must trade for a smaller blower. For that system I have a birdcatcher for fuel. I plan to build my own manifold when I get the right size blower. My question on the roots was to figure out what size I could use without too much hassle. These are both long term projects but you have to start somewhere. BTW I need about 900hp to attain my bucket list ET of 8.99.

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I'd just use what you have. 12-71 is not unheard of on a blown alcy 454.
You better have a big Procharger if your trying to compair the two.

Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: FastmOp] #1629396
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I'd just use what you have. 12-71 is not unheard of on a blown alcy 454.
You better have a big Procharger if your trying to compair the two.




A f2 would compair easily with that. There is a f2 on this board that goes 4.70s at over 3300 lbs on a bbm.


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Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Blucuda413] #1629397
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This may sound stupid but I plan to develop both a roots blower system and a Procharger system. I have the Procharger and the installation brackets and am gradually buying all the other parts. I also have a 12-71 that I must trade for a smaller blower. For that system I have a birdcatcher for fuel. I plan to build my own manifold when I get the right size blower. My question on the roots was to figure out what size I could use without too much hassle. These are both long term projects but you have to start somewhere. BTW I need about 900hp to attain my bucket list ET of 8.99.




JMO.. but I would run either a 6-71 or a 8-71.. if
you go larger on a SB it might be way too long to
fit

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here is some info that may help you decide.My 8-71 take about 70/90 hp to drive at 10%OD with 240*F air temps and I have read that a 10-71 at lets say 6%OD to make the same hp was 20*F cooler IAT and that 20*F cooler temp make 20 more hp +/- 5 I would say.


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Re: Blower Size On Smallblock?? [Re: Clanton] #1629399
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Clanton, fuel injection with nozzles at the hat is different than running with carbs on top, then if you add the down nozzles, you can really tune for each cylinder and make the blower work a lot better. I'd be more concerned on keeping the bottom of the motor together running either style blower at the 900 - 1000 hp level on a small block.


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I did not see where he said it was injected!I was also waiting to find out what block he has.


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Use the 12 71 but mount it out front. you can intercool it and use standard intake manifolds. Plus, it would be way cooler than doing it the "standard way"


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TRENDZ, the old Potvin kit trick. It's been a long time since I've seen one of those. Good idea but no space. Is anyone currently using a 8-71 on a small block and if so what manifold and how much clearance between blower and distributor??? Thanks, Max

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Clanton, in his second post, he said he had a bird for the roots blower, that's where I got it from.


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