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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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I have never seen it done or heard about it being done. Burst panels are for blower applications.
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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I thought these looked nice: http://www.bmfperformance.com/bmf-burst-panel/I have to call and see what physical dimensions are. Should I run one on each end of the plenum (Indy tunnel ram) or should I put one in between the carbs on the top plate? I think there is enough room to run one. My reason for even thinking about this was seeing a picture of an Indy tunnel ram with the front of the plenum all welded up. Thank you for your insight. 
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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I have never seen it done or heard about it being done. Burst panels are for blower applications.
Obviously haven't kept up with the SS/AH crowd? Lots of them run burst panels.
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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That's an interesting idea.  The Rat Roaster was known to have back fire issues, due to puddling fuel. I addressed that as well.  Mark
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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Look at the size of a burst panel, compared to 8 throttle blades wide open.........less area. A burst panel usually only helps a light sneeze when trying to crank. For a big backfire they are useless. What we use on the Pro-Mod cars is plastic bolts for the top plate. If it sneezes it just sheers the bolts, you replace them and away you go.
On a blower car, in addition to burst panel, they also run alum blower studs. So even when it pops panel, it still lifts the blower. You are just hoping the combo of the two keeps it from destroying the intake
Monte
When you say plastic bolts do mean nylon? I'll look into it.
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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Look at the size of a burst panel, compared to 8 throttle blades wide open.........less area. A burst panel usually only helps a light sneeze when trying to crank. For a big backfire they are useless. What we use on the Pro-Mod cars is plastic bolts for the top plate. If it sneezes it just sheers the bolts, you replace them and away you go.
On a blower car, in addition to burst panel, they also run alum blower studs. So even when it pops panel, it still lifts the blower. You are just hoping the combo of the two keeps it from destroying the intake
Monte
When you say plastic bolts do mean nylon? I'll look into it.
Yes, just use the nylon bolts. Problem solved
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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What I do with the plastic bolts, to keep from blowing the top off and destroying linkage or lines, is one of two methods.....One is you can make 4 "tethers" from very small steel cable. Fab up some small brackets at the four corners and it lifts and sets right back down......Two, is at the 4 corners, you install what amounts to a carb stud. Secure the intake top with the plastic bolts and put a spring and nut on the 4 corner studs. You are essentially making the WHOLE top the burst panel.
I know LOTS of people use them, but those small burst panels are pretty much useless. It MIGHT and I repeat MIGHT help you with a small pop when cranking, but chances are still VERY good that even if they do open, you will still taco shell the throttle plates. I would lots rather have to replace some plastic bolts and reseal the top, than try to wrestle bent throttle blades from a carb.......especially a Dominator. If the you bend them bad, you usually have to cut the throttle shafts out to get them out. Then you are out blades AND shafts.
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Re: Burst Plate(s) on Tunnel Ram
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What I do with the plastic bolts, to keep from blowing the top off and destroying linkage or lines, is one of two methods.....One is you can make 4 "tethers" from very small steel cable. Fab up some small brackets at the four corners and it lifts and sets right back down......Two, is at the 4 corners, you install what amounts to a carb stud. Secure the intake top with the plastic bolts and put a spring and nut on the 4 corner studs. You are essentially making the WHOLE top the burst panel.
I know LOTS of people use them, but those small burst panels are pretty much useless. It MIGHT and I repeat MIGHT help you with a small pop when cranking, but chances are still VERY good that even if they do open, you will still taco shell the throttle plates. I would lots rather have to replace some plastic bolts and reseal the top, than try to wrestle bent throttle blades from a carb.......especially a Dominator. If the you bend them bad, you usually have to cut the throttle shafts out to get them out. Then you are out blades AND shafts.
Monte
Thank you as always for your insight. My car is a street/strip deal so most of my reasoning for installing the burst plates is for lean backfires when I am warming up the engine (i.e. a cold fall morning putting to the track). As far as the nylon bolts I am having a hard time finding flat allen head (tapered seat) 10-24 machine screws in the harder, UV-proof nylon. I did find some that are made from white nylon however they are quite soft and the cone on the underside of the bolt head is no as large in comparison to it's steel counterpart. Where do you guys buy your nylon bolts? The only place I have found them is home improvement stores and hardware outfits (ACE is the place).
I like the idea of tehers.
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