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Steering column HELP!!! #1620111
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I took off the steering wheel to change the signal switch and removed these to bolts thinking that would be loosening up the cone like cover. (please see pics) Took the bolts out, noticed nothing happened so I was screwing the bolts back in and there is nothing gripping the bolts. Anybody know what I did wrong??

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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: ngpSatellite] #1620112
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I took off the steering wheel to change the signal switch and removed these to bolts thinking that would be loosening up the cone like cover. (please see pics) Took the bolts out, noticed nothing happened so I was screwing the bolts back in and there is nothing gripping the bolts. Anybody know what I did wrong??




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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: ngpSatellite] #1620113
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Did you rotate the back portion so it no longer lines up with the cone?


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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: azmopar] #1620114
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thx for your reply what's the right way to line it back up I Turned the outer case but still don't see anything to grab on to,

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thx for your reply what's the right way to line it back up I Turned the outer case but still don't see anything to grab on to,




lots of times itll slide up a little and u can see where the bosses are for the screws


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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: azmopar] #1620116
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OK... Thanks so much!!

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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: azmopar] #1620118
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I'm not sure what's going on but there is no bosses that I can see. I jacked the car up and moved the front tires like I was turning and the spindle turns and the cone and collar stay straight like it should. I'm not even sure what the purpose for those two bolts are. when I turn the cone and collar the cone, front collar and lower outer case turn but you can only go to about 2 o'clock (and still no bosses.) That bolt in pic in upper left, when I un screwed the bolt I didn't move anything and just tried to put it back with in a minute so that's why its a bit funny. Maybe its for a column shift car. mines a floor console???

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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: Kudakid] #1620119
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the cone, front collar(pic) and the outer long cover shaft all move together.. I tried to twist them, there all in lockstep.

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I'm not sure what's going on but there is no bosses that I can see. I jacked the car up and moved the front tires like I was turning and the spindle turns and the cone and collar stay straight like it should. I'm not even sure what the purpose for those two bolts are. when I turn the cone and collar the cone, front collar and lower outer case turn but you can only go to about 2 o'clock (and still no bosses.) That bolt in pic in upper left, when I un screwed the bolt I didn't move anything and just tried to put it back with in a minute so that's why its a bit funny. Maybe its for a column shift car. mines a floor console???


try turning the other direction?


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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: azmopar] #1620121
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Tried moving other direction and nothing. The back cone, front collar and long outer shell all move together. you could actually spin it from the engine bay as well (outer shell sticks out about 5 in on firewall). So if these bolts are to keep the front collar and cone together then they are not separating at all right now and when I eventually put the lower steering column bracket back on that will lock in the outer shell, cone and front collar in place. is the front collar and the cone suppose to move independent of each other when the bolts are out??

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Tried moving other direction and nothing. The back cone, front collar and long outer shell all move together. you could actually spin it from the engine bay as well (outer shell sticks out about 5 in on firewall). So if these bolts are to keep the front collar and cone together then they are not separating at all right now and when I eventually put the lower steering column bracket back on that will lock in the outer shell, cone and front collar in place. is the front collar and the cone suppose to move independent of each other when the bolts are out??




HMMMM ill have to look at one when I get home itll be late when I get home so hang tight,


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Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: azmopar] #1620123
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will do.........thx.. its almost like the bolts for a column shift.. thx for your time.. my switch is coming in tomorrow so no rush!

Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: ngpSatellite] #1620124
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you have to remove the circlip on the shaft to remove the collar,did you do that? cant see in the pics.

Re: Steering column HELP!!! [Re: ngpSatellite] #1620125
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I'm not sure what's going on but there is no bosses that I can see. I jacked the car up and moved the front tires like I was turning and the spindle turns and the cone and collar stay straight like it should. I'm not even sure what the purpose for those two bolts are. when I turn the cone and collar the cone, front collar and lower outer case turn but you can only go to about 2 o'clock (and still no bosses.) That bolt in pic in upper left, when I un screwed the bolt I didn't move anything and just tried to put it back with in a minute so that's why its a bit funny. Maybe its for a column shift car. mines a floor console???




Just FYI- That bearing in the middle is stilll available from the factory

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Hey there... thanks for the replies... I did take the locking clip off and it did not budge, both cone and front collar(were you mount the switch) seemed to be fused together, when I twist the front collar everything moves(except Steering wheel spindle of coarse) the collar cone and long casing that goes through the fire wall all rotate together.
I tried to twist the front collar and back cone in opposite directions to get it to break free and nothing.
that bearing looks good but (spindle moves smoothly) when I took the locking ring off I tired to pull off front collar and nothing...front collar and bearing are stuck together. When you look behind the front collar I see nothing .. just doesn't make sense right now... like there is not a purpose for the bolts (maybe the slots were for a column shift car) last owner had the interior completely redone 10 years ago so maybe someone just stuck them in there just b/c...must have been a chevy guy .. .... long shot)
there was no noise of a brocket or bosses falling when I took the bold out and I tried to put back within a minute and I didn't move anything..

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ref pic of front collar cone and long case

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Re: Steering column HELP!!! UPDATE [Re: ngpSatellite] #1620129
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just found a parts breakdown and it shows two retaining nuts. just have to slide them back into view and lockdown. Thanks for the help everyone

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I have my '73 newport column apart on my coffee table as we speak.
On the lower collar there are three round bosses sticking up and one goes in between the walled in areas of the slot for the wires and the turn signal stick on the upper collar.
The collars fit together pretty snug as does the bearing on the shaft, after removing the screws I tapped on the shaft with a brass hammer while pulling on the upper collar and it popped right apart .
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