Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: RSNOMO]
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05/07/14 11:22 PM
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340SHORTY
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Reman from your favorite local parts house. Usually around 50 clams. Your 383 dist wouldnt of done you any good. The shaft is to short for use in a 440.
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: WyleECoyote]
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05/07/14 11:39 PM
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I know you said new but I'd suggest a good used non Mallory electronic OE dist & take it apart & clean/lube it & reduce the lower shaft end play to .005". Taking the clip out is a pain but when you get the springs/slot length finalized your all set & the real power is in the coil/ballast combo & the dist is pretty much just an on/off switch to trigger the ECU. NAPA has an Echlin #MO3000 rotor for $8 & change that has a .060" longer blade & check/correct the rotor phasing. You could clean/polish the exterior to match the quality of your new eng paint/finish. I understand there is something that ain't quite right with the mechanics of the new Mallory based MP dizzys
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: 340SHORTY]
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05/08/14 12:28 AM
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Reman from your favorite local parts house. Usually around 50 clams. Your 383 dist wouldnt of done you any good. The shaft is to short for use in a 440.
Right. The deck height is different between the 383/400 and the 440; makes the distributor shaft longer on the 440's. I just didn't want to pay for a complete "conversion" kit when all I need is the distributor.
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: dogdays]
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05/08/14 01:37 PM
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No need to cringe bro . Dog what is going on with you that the content of my (or anyones) post would be getting under your skin?. What works for me is: to ignore the stuff I dont agree with/apologise when I post something erroneous (which hopefully ain't too often)/try to give helpfull advice wording it as a suggestion rather than a must do/ignore the haters on here unless they jump on me personally. Every post should offer or attempt to offer something constructive so with that in mind here goes: I believe there is ALOT of gain to be had by dialing in the curve dead on with the dist installed cuz every eng is different. If the OP wants a new drop in dist which will be close but not dead on then I'm sure he is capable of making that decision & yes taking the center clip out is a pain but it ain't bad once you get the hang of it. RR
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: RapidRobert]
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05/08/14 02:25 PM
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No need to cringe bro . Dog what is going on with you that the content of my (or anyones) post would be getting under your skin?. What works for me is: to ignore the stuff I dont agree with/apologise when I post something erroneous (which hopefully ain't too often)/try to give helpfull advice wording it as a suggestion rather than a must do/ignore the haters on here unless they jump on me personally. Every post should offer or attempt to offer something constructive so with that in mind here goes: I believe there is ALOT of gain to be had by dialing in the curve dead on with the dist installed cuz every eng is different. If the OP wants a new drop in dist which will be close but not dead on then I'm sure he is capable of making that decision & yes taking the center clip out is a pain but it ain't bad once you get the hang of it. RR
RR , why are you so sensitive when someone doesn't agree with suggestion and says something about it ?
Maybe you should heed your own advice to ignore it and move on ...
Also , I'm curious , what's SUPPOSEDLY wrong with the Mallory unit ??
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: floridian]
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05/09/14 10:37 AM
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I had a low cost parts sore unit go bad on me. I replaced it with a mopar unit from FBO. It was a higher quality distributor than a parts store replacement and after I walked him through my combo he set it up and it has worked great right out of the box. The price was not high either. Just my personal positive experience. www.4secondsflat.com/
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: WyleECoyote]
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05/09/14 11:19 AM
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So a stock electronic distributor isn't any good?
That orange piece of junk they come with is outdated.
As far as what is wrong with the distributor, one guy thousands of miles outside the US says he found something wrong, and the person passing that info along can't remember what it was ... so yes ... junk ...
The wiring harness and ballast resistor are probably ok ...
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: JohnRR]
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05/09/14 12:27 PM
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Cut-n-paste about problems with newer MP distributor The whole story is in the Feb '14 Mopar Action. I just read the Mopar Action article. I've used the newer MP distributor in the past and it worked in my application but both the mechanical advance and vacuum advance were disabled. The distributor was locked out. Based on that I can't comment on the spark scatter issue from a personal perspective but i have seen some erratic timing on other car's i've helped to tune. It can be frustrating swapping out springs and resetting/adjusting mechanical advance with marginal results. :P The MA article does make mention of the FireCore billet distributors and upon testing they found that timing was rock solid with the Firecore unit. Ehrenberg even summerizes the article by saying ; your best option is to find an old 73 distributor and rebuild/modify it or purchase the FireCore unit. More or less of what i've been telling members for the past few years ; Firecore is a top shelf product and i wouldn't be recommending it to my friends if it wasn't. As for the ECU's ; there is a member on Moparts who has been doing a fair bit of dyno testing on the replacement style ECU's and the only ones he likes are the rev-n-ator and FBO box. All the other chinese knockoffs pull timing and higher rpm and loose power at peak volumetric efficiency which is when the greatest demand on the ignition system occurs. Mopar performance is out of the electronic conversion market at this point which isn't necessarily a bad thing based on recent reports.
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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor
[Re: 383man]
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05/14/14 11:09 AM
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Thanks everyone! Like dogdays said, I just want to stab it in, set timing and go - and so with everyone's comments here I do believe I will just buy the FireCore distributor (thanks cnxt) for my Road Runner (already wired with ECU). I also have a 71 Charger with points that I will convert with a pertronix ignition conversion and see how that goes too! (thanks Kilrbee) Thanks again to all that took the time to share.
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