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Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor #1617552
05/07/14 10:53 PM
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Who has the best price for a 440 distributor?

I already converted my 68 Road Runner to electronic ignition but sold the 383 engine with the distributor. Now my 440 is nearing completion at Hensley Performance in Knoxville, TN and I need a new distributor. Who sells just the distributor the cheapest?


Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: WyleECoyote] #1617553
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I'd check with Jeg's, or Summit...

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: RSNOMO] #1617554
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Reman from your favorite local parts house. Usually around 50 clams. Your 383 dist wouldnt of done you any good. The shaft is to short for use in a 440.

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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: WyleECoyote] #1617555
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I know you said new but I'd suggest a good used non Mallory electronic OE dist & take it apart & clean/lube it & reduce the lower shaft end play to .005". Taking the clip out is a pain but when you get the springs/slot length finalized your all set & the real power is in the coil/ballast combo & the dist is pretty much just an on/off switch to trigger the ECU. NAPA has an Echlin #MO3000 rotor for $8 & change that has a .060" longer blade & check/correct the rotor phasing. You could clean/polish the exterior to match the quality of your new eng paint/finish. I understand there is something that ain't quite right with the mechanics of the new Mallory based MP dizzys


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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: 340SHORTY] #1617556
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Reman from your favorite local parts house. Usually around 50 clams. Your 383 dist wouldnt of done you any good. The shaft is to short for use in a 440.




Right. The deck height is different between the 383/400 and the 440; makes the distributor shaft longer on the 440's. I just didn't want to pay for a complete "conversion" kit when all I need is the distributor.

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: WyleECoyote] #1617557
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I'd go on the 'bay and look for an Accel electronic unit.

Every time Nebraska's own RR proposes using a remanufactured stock distributor, I cringe. Nothing wrong with one, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO INVEST THE TIME AND EFFORT to get the curve right. He's got more time than money, so it makes sense for him.
But if you're not a weekend racer and just want to stab it in, set timing and go, buying a distributor with a HP curve already in it makes a lot of sense.

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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: dogdays] #1617558
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No need to cringe bro . Dog what is going on with you that the content of my (or anyones) post would be getting under your skin?. What works for me is: to ignore the stuff I dont agree with/apologise when I post something erroneous (which hopefully ain't too often)/try to give helpfull advice wording it as a suggestion rather than a must do/ignore the haters on here unless they jump on me personally. Every post should offer or attempt to offer something constructive so with that in mind here goes: I believe there is ALOT of gain to be had by dialing in the curve dead on with the dist installed cuz every eng is different. If the OP wants a new drop in dist which will be close but not dead on then I'm sure he is capable of making that decision & yes taking the center clip out is a pain but it ain't bad once you get the hang of it. RR


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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: RapidRobert] #1617559
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No need to cringe bro . Dog what is going on with you that the content of my (or anyones) post would be getting under your skin?. What works for me is: to ignore the stuff I dont agree with/apologise when I post something erroneous (which hopefully ain't too often)/try to give helpfull advice wording it as a suggestion rather than a must do/ignore the haters on here unless they jump on me personally. Every post should offer or attempt to offer something constructive so with that in mind here goes: I believe there is ALOT of gain to be had by dialing in the curve dead on with the dist installed cuz every eng is different. If the OP wants a new drop in dist which will be close but not dead on then I'm sure he is capable of making that decision & yes taking the center clip out is a pain but it ain't bad once you get the hang of it. RR




RR , why are you so sensitive when someone doesn't agree with suggestion and says something about it ?

Maybe you should heed your own advice to ignore it and move on ...



Also , I'm curious , what's SUPPOSEDLY wrong with the Mallory unit ??

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: WyleECoyote] #1617560
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Depends on what look your going for, I usually pick up a rebuilt 440 points distributor from a local parts shop (40-50 bucks) then pull out the points and put in a pertronix ignition conversion. it looks stock without any extra ignition boxes to mount and works great!

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: Kilrbee] #1617561
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I have a good (I think) 440 Mallory BEI distributor with cap, rotor and Belden wires that I would sell cheap to a good home. Send me a PM with your regular e-mail address and I can send pictures of the unit, closeups of the internals & such.


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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: JohnRR] #1617562
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RR , why are you so sensitive when someone doesn't agree with suggestion and says something about it ?
Maybe you should heed your own advice to ignore it and move on ...
Also , I'm curious , what's SUPPOSEDLY wrong with the Mallory unit ??


(1) You first (2) Nacho had tipped me to something (I forgot what exactly) that was wrong with it & I took that at face value.


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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: RapidRobert] #1617563
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So a stock electronic distributor isn't any good?

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: WyleECoyote] #1617564
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I purchased a Pertronix "plug n play" distributor for my car during its restoration.. As a kid I had enough of dual points, worn out bushings, and "accel" distributors that were worn out when brand new..

Billet, black cap, with a BEARING up top instead of a bushing. Wired it up, positive and negative, bypassed my resistor and played some with intial and the mechanical advance. Has worked flawless for me... Wish everything was this simple

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: floridian] #1617565
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I had a low cost parts sore unit go bad on me. I replaced it with a mopar unit from FBO. It was a higher quality distributor than a parts store replacement and after I walked him through my combo he set it up and it has worked great right out of the box.

The price was not high either.
Just my personal positive experience.


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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: WyleECoyote] #1617566
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So a stock electronic distributor isn't any good?




That orange piece of junk they come with is outdated.

As far as what is wrong with the distributor, one guy thousands of miles outside the US says he found something wrong, and the person passing that info along can't remember what it was ... so yes ... junk ...

The wiring harness and ballast resistor are probably ok ...

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: JohnRR] #1617567
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Cut-n-paste about problems with newer MP distributor
The whole story is in the Feb '14 Mopar Action.

I just read the Mopar Action article. I've used the newer MP distributor in the past and it worked in my application but both the mechanical advance and vacuum advance were disabled. The distributor was locked out. Based on that I can't comment on the spark scatter issue from a personal perspective but i have seen some erratic timing on other car's i've helped to tune. It can be frustrating swapping out springs and resetting/adjusting mechanical advance with marginal results. :P

The MA article does make mention of the FireCore billet distributors and upon testing they found that timing was rock solid with the Firecore unit. Ehrenberg even summerizes the article by saying ; your best option is to find an old 73 distributor and rebuild/modify it or purchase the FireCore unit. More or less of what i've been telling members for the past few years ; Firecore is a top shelf product and i wouldn't be recommending it to my friends if it wasn't.

As for the ECU's ; there is a member on Moparts who has been doing a fair bit of dyno testing on the replacement style ECU's and the only ones he likes are the rev-n-ator and FBO box. All the other chinese knockoffs pull timing and higher rpm and loose power at peak volumetric efficiency which is when the greatest demand on the ignition system occurs.

Mopar performance is out of the electronic conversion market at this point which isn't necessarily a bad thing based on recent reports.

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: BDW] #1617568
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Cut-n-paste about problems with newer MP distributor
The whole story is in the Feb '14 Mopar Action.

Mopar performance is out of the electronic conversion market at this point which isn't necessarily a bad thing based on recent reports.


There ya go double R & I can locate/send you a copy if you like (I kept your address). Sounds like the best plan is to rework an older one (my preference) or for a plug & play to purchase a Firecore. Cnxt thank you for the vindication/info & now that you mentioned it what Nacho mentioned was spark scatter, something on the plate iirc was not right


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Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: RapidRobert] #1617569
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Thanks , that's a lot better than ... I think I heard one guy noticed a problem

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: JohnRR] #1617570
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On my sons 400 I use a stock Mopar B block dist thas most likely from about as mid 70's 400 I just recurved it with Mr Gaskets springs as set the amount of advance I wanted in it. It has benn running good in his car since 1997. On my 63 I picked up a Mallory dist for a good price and its a nice unit with adjustable advance and spring tension. Its been working flawless in my 63 since 2006. Ron

Re: Mopar Electronic Ignition Distributor [Re: 383man] #1617571
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Thanks everyone!

Like dogdays said, I just want to stab it in, set timing and go - and so with everyone's comments here I do believe I will just buy the FireCore distributor (thanks cnxt) for my Road Runner (already wired with ECU).

I also have a 71 Charger with points that I will convert with a pertronix ignition conversion and see how that goes too! (thanks Kilrbee)

Thanks again to all that took the time to share.

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