Wiring confusion.
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The car:'69 Super Bee. New wiring front to back. New light bulbs. The problem: passenger side brake/flasher/turn signal lights don't work. Tail lights do. The drivers side works fine. I took a Dremel tool and a sanding wheel and hit the inside of the taillight housings, thinking bad ground. No change. The symptoms say to me bad ground. I can see a turn signal switch being bad, but that doesn't explain why the brake lights and flashers don't work... The new harness has spade terminals on it, I'm thinking about building another ground harness to see if that helps. Just picking your brain to see if anyone else can come up with any ideas... Thanks..
1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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The car:'69 Super Bee. New wiring front to back. New light bulbs. The problem: passenger side brake/flasher/turn signal lights don't work. Tail lights do. The drivers side works fine. I took a Dremel tool and a sanding wheel and hit the inside of the taillight housings, thinking bad ground. No change. The symptoms say to me bad ground. I can see a turn signal switch being bad, but that doesn't explain why the brake lights and flashers don't work... The new harness has spade terminals on it, I'm thinking about building another ground harness to see if that helps. Just picking your brain to see if anyone else can come up with any ideas... Thanks..
Do you have voltage at the socket? If so run a temp ground wire to the socket from the other side. No voltage? Then I would suspect the turn signal switch. The feed wire for either of the rear brake/TS wires comes from the switch. One side is functioning. That verifies that the voltage from the stop lamp switch to the T/S switch is present. Doug
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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05/02/14 10:39 PM
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The brake/turn/flashers all use the same large filament in the dual filament 1157 bulb so there is (1) wire going rearward to the (1) filament on the pass side (& one for the DR side). I would seperate the dangling electrical connector for the brake/TS lights under the column & jump fire to the (1) wire for them. No go? then jump fire to that wire under the DR kick panel. No go? going rearward there's a connector or two under the carpet & same thing seperate/jump fire to check each one till you get fire/continuity to the rear pass socket & check that the bulb filament(s)is good. that the bulb base contact to the socket is good. On the ground side that the bulb case is making contact with the socket. that the socket (as said) has continuity to the frame. If all good (& you can shortcut that procedure as needed) then the problem is in the TS switch/harness because it is recieving fire from the brake pedal switch (the white hot in wire) and directing it to the DR brake large filament & it should be firing both sides at the same time (with the stalk in neutral)
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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05/03/14 12:30 AM
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I'm not getting any juice to the connection at the kick panel. I started forward, but I haven't got under the dash yet. The turn signal switch looks to be pretty expensive, so I'm going to try to track it down some more before I spend the green.
1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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05/03/14 12:33 AM
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Expensive & a pain to swap in the column so definitely ohm it out before you order anything. I'd get on the col half of the dangling connector & see what you get for continuities.
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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Will do. I have to get under that and put in some bulbs for the dash. So while I'm there...
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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I did some thinking and just spitballing here... If the right side front signal works, would that mean the switch isn't bad? It clearly runs something. Maybe I'm not up to snuff on what is connected where, but the flasher/turn signal and brake switches are all interconnected somewhere? Everything else works except for the right side rear turn signal/flasher/brake lights. I'm not grasping something here.
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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That's what I was wondering. That explains it. The cam seems good, but a trip inside the column is coming, it seems.
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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05/03/14 10:16 PM
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That's what I was wondering. That explains it. The cam seems good, but a trip inside the column is coming, it seems.
The article below might confirm if you need to make that trip.
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Re: Wiring confusion.
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05/04/14 02:52 PM
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That's awesome! Thank you!
Glad to help.
Let us know what you find.
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