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Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix #1609355
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I purchased a gallon can of this 35% nitro mix back in 1996 in the hopes that as an additive for my high compression GTX it might save on trips for buying 98-100 Octane fuel. Fast forward 18 years and the metal can is still factory sealed out in my garage. Price Chemical made the mix and it comes with coolant and oil lubricant additives. It's meant to be a hp boost vice an octane booster. Mfg suggested mixing ratio was 1-40 when added to premium unleaded or blue AV fuel. The container says 1 quart but it's clearly a gallon container. Possibly, they're saying it's 1 quart of pure nitromethane.

In reading up on nitro fuels they are also used in radio-controlled "hobby" engines, though typically at lower nitro mixes of 10-25% (helo's, cars, planes, boats, etc.) My thoughts were to be able to give to this someone who might actually have a use for it. Even as a nitro mix it still has its energy value. Not sure yet if the local household hazwaste facility would even accept this. If stored properly, nitro/methanol fuels can/should last nearly indefinitely. That means sealed opaque containers/drums, stable temps w/o condensation, metal, etc. The cap is still tight on my container though it was never fully filled from the manufacturer. If not vacuum sealed from the factory that air pocket would have probably causes some condensation and oxidation inside the can.

Any ideas on what to do with this stuff? I initially thought I could mix a few ounces per tankful in my 87 octane daily driver pump gas and get rid if it that way. With nitro being based on nitric acid, it's corrosive to copper and other metal alloys. Not sure I want to chance that doing something destructive to my car's engine. And it's probably safest if I don't even open the stuff.

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Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: roadrunner69s] #1609356
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At least around here.. you CANT give it to the household
waste... thats considered a explosive... you might call
the waste company and ask WHERE you can get rid of
it... I know I use 15% in my RC plane, car and boat...
OR take it to the track (if they have fuel sales there)
and give it to the fuel people

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1609357
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just mix in a very little when you fill up, bet you couldn't tell it was there.

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: roadrunner69s] #1609358
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I would think at this point, the "greenest" solution would be to simply use it in small quanties/ratios as a fuel additive, until gone. But then if they dump 35 mill gals of water because of a pee prank, you might to to jail.


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Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: Quicktree] #1609359
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just mix in a very little when you fill up, bet you couldn't tell it was there.




I know I couldn't tell. I'm just wondering if my engine or fuel system might be able to tell. But, that's certainly a possibility if others chime in and say they've done something similar w/o negative outcomes. Thanks for the inputs so far.

The can doesn't say "explosive" on it, just "flammable/poison."

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: jcc] #1609360
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I would think at this point, the "greenest" solution would be to simply use it in small quanties/ratios as a fuel additive, until gone. But then if they dump 35 mill gals of water because of a pee prank, you might to to jail.




That was STUPID... like fish and other critters dont
pee or do-do.... and when drained they are gonna
clean and disinfect the holding area.... and with
a water shortage...brilliant.. glad I have my own well

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1609361
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let your yard grow out of control then try some in your mower I had some klotz nitro while back and that's what I did with it

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: Cheatham] #1609362
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If the gallon can is 35% nitro it will be just a few percent if you mix it with a full tank of pump gas. Do you have something else besides your DD? Dump it in with 5-10 gallons of gas and go drive the wee out of it and have some fun/enjoy the fragrance.

If you are concerned about the corrosive properties just run it out and then chase it with some fresh gas to flush out the residue.

I knew methanol was corrosive but didn't know nitro was.

Kevin

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: Cheatham] #1609363
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Buddy of mine was using that stuff in his Slant motor back then. It worked good until he got greedy. He did pick up .3 before the pistons gave up.

Be glad you didn't use it on your motor.


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Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: slantzilla] #1609364
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Charcoal lighter? Your outing could smell just like you are at the track.


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Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: slantzilla] #1609365
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I could see the old lawn mower engine melting down long before a slant six engine. And seeing it's on its last legs and worth no more than $20 it might be an option. Would take an entire season to use up that nitro mix even if diluted 3-1. It would be an interesting experiment. The only downside is I leave these inexpensive old push mowers by the side of my driveway when I'm done with them. Someone always seems to have use for serviceable engines. This engine probably won't be so serviceable after a summer's worth of nitro. And not likely I'd put the nitro into my 15,000 mile '99 Camaro SS.

Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: roadrunner69s] #1609366
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I'm on the CT shore near the base if you want to get rid of it, I'm thinking could be fun with a 318 Dart I have tucked into one corner of the yard.

Did you get it from Chet's back in the day? I almost picked up a gallon of the stuff when he was located in the "new building" slash truck repair facility.

Gary




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Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: gdonovan] #1609367
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I'm on the CT shore near the base if you want to get rid of it, I'm thinking could be fun with a 318 Dart I have tucked into one corner of the yard.

Did you get it from Chet's back in the day? I almost picked up a gallon of the stuff when he was located in the "new building" slash truck repair facility. Gary




Sounds like a reasonable solution to me. I'm about 15 miles from the base. I used to get my Sunoco 100+ at a speed shop around Preston, CT. Could have been Chet's. I probably got that nitro through him. I'll send you a PM and see if we can find a place to meet up or to drop it off.

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I used to get my Sunoco 100+ at a speed shop around Preston, CT. Could have been Chet's.




It was, he was pretty much the last hold out in the area and had a pump on the side of the building, it was a regular stop for me when heading to the track =)




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Re: Disposal of old Power Fuel Max Race Nitromethane mix [Re: roadrunner69s] #1609369
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Don't tell anybody "official" you have it, or you'll be looking at paying for a haz-mat team to lock down your county. Those idiots see everything as overtime and anti-terrorism, in that order.
I'd walk it over to my fire department with a note on it - "found this in a dumpster, not sure what it is" and leave before they see you.


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I would think at this point, the "greenest" solution would be to simply use it in small quanties/ratios as a fuel additive, until gone. But then if they dump 35 mill gals of water because of a pee prank, you might to to jail.




That was STUPID... like fish and other critters dont
pee or do-do.... and when drained they are gonna
clean and disinfect the holding area.... and with
a water shortage...brilliant.. glad I have my own well





Yeah it would make sense if he pissed in the clear well but in the reservoir? Pull a coliform on it and if it's negative send that stuff out lmao







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